UgurS Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Hello, I have seen a lot of driver who drive on grass and from wrong way. When I see them, I report them but sometimes Game Moderators say "It only worths a kick." and decline my report. However, I think it worths ban. It is something very unrealistic and it effects the congestion. Also it can increase collisions. 2 days ago I created a feedback about this situation. After my feedback, Game Moderator changed his comment which was in my declined report to "This player has been banned, thanks for your report" It looks like it is a dilemma. I didn't understand if it worths a kick or a ban. What do you think about it? Should I report players because of this reason? Please tell your opinion. Examples from my declined reports: Spoiler https://plays.tv/video/5c0568566a5ea1b0c1/ets2-mp-wrong-way-tmp-id-650486 (Banned after feedback) https://plays.tv/video/5c0936f5367af1f89a/ets2-mp-wrong-way-tmp-id-2475435 https://plays.tv/video/5c0933732994773386/ets2-mp-wrong-way-tmp-id-2485206 Thanks in advance, UgurS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Hi, I think with the first two, it's possible that the users may have been glitched into that area just past the barriers, and are trying to find a way to free themselves. If they'd deliberately driven in there, I think it would be different and worthy of a ban. With the third clip, that's a bit different, as they were on the grass rather than beside a barrier, but they could probably argue they had to swerve there to avoid the incident which had occurred in front of you and were just getting back on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kehox Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 in my opinion... it should be a ban ... (sure someone hard break you go on the grass and STOP your truck and merge back that is different ) but rolling on the grass to only overtake or any else... should be punish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UgurS Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, PorscheGT3 said: Hi, I think with the first two, it's possible that the users may have been glitched into that area just past the barriers, and are trying to find a way to free themselves. If they'd deliberately driven in there, I think it would be different and worthy of a ban. With the third clip, that's a bit different, as they were on the grass rather than beside a barrier, but they could probably argue they had to swerve there to avoid the incident which had occurred in front of you and were just getting back on the road. I agree with you for second video. He may trying to find a way to free himself but in first video there was a lot of traffic and players were trying to overtake eachother to pass the traffic. Check the video below. He got banned but the player whose video was in my first post (it was the first video) didn't get banned at first time. Spoiler https://plays.tv/video/5c0563379273e09a44/ets2-mp-wrong-way-tmp-id-2446619 16 minutes ago, [VIVA] Kehox said: in my opinion... it should be a ban ... (sure someone hard break you go on the grass and STOP your truck and merge back that is different ) but rolling on the grass to only overtake or any else... should be punish. Also I agree with you too. Sometimes the trucker who is in front of you hard breaks and you try to stop with your reflexes. That shouldn't be punished. However; as you said, driving out of the road to overtake someone, should be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, UgurS said: I agree with you for second video. He may trying to find a way to free himself but in first video there was a lot of traffic and players were trying to overtake eachother to pass the traffic. Check the video below. He got banned but the player who was in the first video that I posted didn't get banned at first time. Hide contents https://plays.tv/video/5c0563379273e09a44/ets2-mp-wrong-way-tmp-id-2446619 I see what you mean now looking back at it - they certainly seem to be going very quickly if they'd just been glitched in. It is quite interesting one got banned and not the other - in first and second videos they're both doing the same thing, in the same direction, at the same speed, so it's odd only one got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Rose Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 It's hard to answer question without the report video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UgurS Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Amber Rose said: It's hard to answer question without the report video. There are 3 videos in my first post which are in spoiler. Also there is 1 more video in my second post which is in spoiler too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henzsa Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Great question. As previously said, I'd agree with giving those first two guys ban. The third one is questionable. Sometimes you just really need to go away from keyboard and there is no other chance then getting on a grass even tho on the opposite side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Rose Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 hours ago, UgurS said: There are 3 videos in my first post which are in spoiler. Also there is 1 more video in my second post which is in spoiler too. Oh, didn't notice. That's because, they CNT determine if there was a crash and he/she ended up on the wrong side of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakxaev68 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 None of those. Insert trigger in the same manner it kicks out players from the game after a limited time, if on the wrong lane or driving offroad. In order to give the same players reaction time, have the trigger set to 5 mins so they have enough time to reverse on the right side of the road. I see the same dumb-asses, and those same dumb-asses slam into me, every time. You can't fight stupidity in players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caff!!! Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I can why you might need to park on wrong side, but cutting across to merge is a bad idea on C-D and should be done on SP. Independent driver On 8/28/2018 at 2:16 PM, caff!!! said: to quote Revolver Ocelot: I love to reload shift gears during a battle delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan61 [UK] Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I believe it is only worth a kick, unless they cut a cross traffic and are overtaking somebody at high speed, I don't think driving at low speeds on the grass should be worth a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuly Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 It really depends, sometimes that person could get cut of and it's trying to get back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptJacker Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I will talk out of your videos , in my opinion overtaking in grass must be a ban reason because otherwise it would be offensive for those who wait at straight line , i will give example from one of my declined report.So i was in line at train pass and some skoda overtook from grass and got front of me , i reported him but my report declined it said , its worth a kick since he didnt collide anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_Instinct Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I think it should be a ban. The reason is because its very dangerous to overtake on the grass side of a road. If it was congested and had more the 25 players it would be illegal due to the amount of players. Driving the wrong way down a road on the road or on the I think would be a 3d ban because it is so dangerous and unfair. The player over taking in the grass could start blocking or causing trouble. It would also be unfair to the players waiting correctly just to be overtaking by a player on their right/left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardCrow Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I think it depends on the Situation. Yesterday there was an truck blocking a road and the traffic got stuck behind me waiting. Then i decided to use the "grass" to avoid a big traffic jam. It's the jobs of the moderators to rate the Situation and decide. This are well trained Players with the best knowledge of the rules. I guess they have the "last word" in this Situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrXEiZ Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Actually, sometimes we need it. Some player's game's crashing, freezing or trying to troll us. It causes traffic jam. Only this moments we need it. Another moments (Overtaking, Trolling, etc.) it's not true behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreea RO Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 People who overtake on grass should definitely get a warning/ban at minimum at first just for the heads up to not do that again because it will be a longer one afterwards. It's not realistic and it also causes moments of despair in traffic because of the people who are ramming or blocking the road for no reason at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCreepyTruckr Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/14/2018 at 8:25 AM, Nomine[GER] said: I think it depends on the Situation. Yesterday there was an truck blocking a road and the traffic got stuck behind me waiting. Then i decided to use the "grass" to avoid a big traffic jam. It's the jobs of the moderators to rate the Situation and decide. This are well trained Players with the best knowledge of the rules. I guess they have the "last word" in this Situations. I'm not a game mod but I'd assume that speed and traffic are the biggest factors in their decision. Someone hitting the grass and passing 5+ players while doing 150 kmh can easily go bad, compared to someone that pulls off the road to go around an accident/blocker and is only doing 10-20 kmh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47Deftones47 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 well ive been banned for driving on grass, if anyone wants to see the report video here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhjDN2i-8OE&feature=youtu.be i come in at 0:23 my id is 1077, the way it works is if someone bothers recording you, putting the footage up on youtube then making a report through the website you're guaranteed to get banned no matter what, but if you just get reported in game then you can get away with stuff like driving on grass, driving the wrong way or even ramming. this is not a rant or anything im just giving my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Nomad Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 @47Deftones47, the question is why did you drive (and overtake) on the grass at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Night Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 driving on the grass is fine, its a perfectly acceptable place to pull over, and you have to drive on the grass for a short period to ensure your ENTIRE truck is off the road. sometimes you can get forced onto the grass to avoid an accident (i know, I have seen this myself on the CD when folk have been pushed by someone who forgets they have a trailer. Then you have nowhere to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Night Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 8:15 PM, Phoenix_Instinct said: I think it should be a ban. The reason is because its very dangerous to overtake on the grass side of a road. If it was congested and had more the 25 players it would be illegal due to the amount of players. Driving the wrong way down a road on the road or on the I think would be a 3d ban because it is so dangerous and unfair. The player over taking in the grass could start blocking or causing trouble. It would also be unfair to the players waiting correctly just to be overtaking by a player on their right/left. i had an occasion in Amsterdam / Rotterdam area, EU2, two fast moving blobs come up behind me, I'm in lane 1 in a DAF XF 510 with a load of concrete beams going uphill, to my right - the shoulder, to my left the overtaking lane, so I begin to move left as one comes level with my trailer to give extra room, however the other one had split and gone right, because he was going up the hard shoulder on an illegal overtake we actually collided. he may have reported me, but i dont think anything came of it, and because the way the player was driving it may have been seen as racing his partner as the one that did get past me was seriously hauling with a high power truck with a very light trailer. If someone is faster, I will move over to give them room, so long as they're going in a passing lane and NOT up the shoulder. ---- as for wrong way, one place where i see it often is at fuel stations on single carriageway roads where sometimes its SAFER to go the wrong way, particularly if you are in a LHD truck in the UK or a RHD truck in Europe, not everyone uses no2 camera for driving, or uses the Kinderspiegel that pop up with the F2 key, The person pulling out of a fuel station with a LHD truck in the UK, or a RHD truck in Europe has a BIG blind spot on their passenger side, and if they have not got a GPS up, they may or may not see someone coming up and think it clear to proceed. *crunch* I won't report people for doing this, as they may be doing that due to a number of reasons, as if you need fuel, sometimes thats the only one you can get to, or it may be simply because its safer as you can see traffic coming from both directions as it is coming down your driver's side. For those doing this, Don't just pull straight out, instead wait for it to be safe to proceed and get back into the correct lane quickly AND SAFELY. For those who are coming down the road and see someone doing this don't report them and clog the system with worthless reports, instead slow down / stop and let them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spig_Xiao Zhu Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 1:25 AM, PorscheGT3 said: Hi, I think with the first two, it's possible that the users may have been glitched into that area just past the barriers, and are trying to find a way to free themselves. If they'd deliberately driven in there, I think it would be different and worthy of a ban. With the third clip, that's a bit different, as they were on the grass rather than beside a barrier, but they could probably argue they had to swerve there to avoid the incident which had occurred in front of you and were just getting back on the road. I quite agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 The problem with driving on the grass is that you almost never actually know what happend. I had it too several times that I got rammed and landed on the grass to find the way back to the road (without disturbing other users). In that cases an TP to the garage would be needed. People who use the grass to drive in the wrong way or troll/kick/ram should be straight banned. People who park on the grass in crowded areas kicked. PVG-Trans VTC Belgium, real life professionals only! - OLD TM & CT San Andreas MP player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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