Lena' Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Hello Guys, bridge between calais duisburg, my opinion is here, road priority is on those coming from the bridge, but many players do not know this, They even think the road is their own. My opinion is that if the traffic lights are here a bit, wouldn't it reduce the traffic? Just like the traffic light on the duisburg road. it's just an idea, let's discuss this. What are your thoughts. https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4jzo https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4gSH https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4DWG --------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattytate Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Yes I agree! But it will only work if people play by the rules. A lot of players run red lights . But good idear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarkoon Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 In my opinion, there is no need for a traffic light there, since the flow entering the Calais - Duisburg road is quite small and if you put a traffic light in this place, then a rather large traffic jam will form. It is better to leave everything as it is, you just need to learn traffic signs ( at least elementary as in this place), or issue a ban to those players who violate the requirements of the signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meto5 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 This is a good idea, but having traffic lights can push it 1 times worse than longer queues, so as long as traffic rules are followed, such considerations will not be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sis'Luna Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I don't understand why priority is given to the one coming from the bridge it should be given to those already on c-d since there are less people coming from the bridge than on the road c-d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Nomad Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Excerpt from §2 Games only rules, first paragraph: Quote Traffic lights and stop signs can be ignored if no other users are in the immediate area. In my view, the flaw of this rule is that is doesn't aim at preventing accidents. It rather is applied to determine the punishment AFTER an accident has happened and been reported. And as long as the TruckersMP team leaves the definition of the term immediate area up to each player, we will continue to see players running red lights and causing accidents. Consequently, it is my firm believe that it doesn't matter if and how many additional traffic lights are installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lena' Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 @tattytate Thank you ^^ yes you are right those who come from the bridge should wait, But in France, this situation is the opposite, I think this stems from the problem. @Meto5 you are right but all like to obey the rules --------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Island Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I don’t think it’s necessary. I don’t think there is a lot of traffic there. But if traffic lights are added, will it cause congestion or other situations? If traffic lights are added and congestion occurs, then I think increasing traffic lights is Unnecessary, my opinion may not be accurate, but this is just what I think. In fact, the best way to solve congestion is that everyone abides by the rules. Congestion is often caused by players who do not follow the rules! Wallace_TMP Truckersmp Player WLG/vtc\Founder Misty Island - TruckersMP - Player Ascend Cargo | Driver Language : Chinese ; English ; Russian ; German Report a player | Appeal a ban | Open a support ticket Regards and have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philii Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I think that it is a good idea, there are accidents often in this intersection and traffic lights can help. People usually respect more traffic lights than signs. Kind Regards, Prime Logistics - Legendary Driver Philiipp.#6022 I Twitch I Steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudokanTB Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 15 hours ago, кσяяα said: I don't understand why priority is given to the one coming from the bridge it should be given to those already on c-d since there are less people coming from the bridge than on the road c-d I think the problem is if you chose to give priority to the drivers already on C-D Road you would risk a huge traffic jam on the motorway, because the drivers joining from the motorway wouldn't be able to join onto C-D Road. 14 hours ago, blabberbeak said: Excerpt from §2 Games only rules, first paragraph: In my view, the flaw of this rule is that is doesn't aim at preventing accidents. It rather is applied to determine the punishment AFTER an accident has happened and been reported. And as long as the TruckersMP team leaves the definition of the term immediate area up to each player, we will continue to see players running red lights and causing accidents. Consequently, it is my firm believe that it doesn't matter if and how many additional traffic lights are installed. You're right that TMP is leaving it for each individual player to judge if there is any driver in the immediate area when ignoring a sign or signal. But isn't that just like out in the real world? Not with light signals I know, but when you come from a small road onto a bigger road and the bigger road has priority. Then you'll have to judge if it's save for you to join the big road both in-game and in real life. 17 hours ago, Lena' said: Hello Guys, bridge between calais duisburg, my opinion is here, road priority is on those coming from the bridge, but many players do not know this, They even think the road is their own. My opinion is that if the traffic lights are here a bit, wouldn't it reduce the traffic? Just like the traffic light on the duisburg road. it's just an idea, let's discuss this. What are your thoughts. https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4jzo https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4gSH https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4DWG I don't think the problem is that maybe many player don't pay attention to the signs. Cause eg. from where I'm from drivers leaving the motorway wouldn't have priority, and I think it's like that in many countries. So players are just not excepting the drivers coming from the motorway to have priority, and they simple just don't care. And in that case I don't think a traffic light would change that much unfortunately. | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effinghamjnr Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 In my opinion, its a very difficult solution, the C-D is a very populated road so there is always going to be traffic jams here and there, this place is particularly bad because of people not following the give way signs, so I think they should do what they did on the outside of Duisburg and give it a bit of a revamp, with speed humps and clearer signs showing the motorway has the right of way, yes it wouldn't work for everyone, however it could fix at least some issues, traffic lights wouldn't suit the junction since there isn't a consistent flow of traffic coming from all directions. **Kind regards,** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Stars Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Adding signal lights will reduce the collision problem, but it will increase congestion. I think improving the player’s ability to recognize street signs is the key to solving the problem. Kind regards Shining Stars TruckersMP -Driver China Express Transportation Chief Operating Officer Languages: | | Discord:Shining Stars#4013 | steam| Forums | World of Trucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Nomad Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, BudokanTB said: But isn't that just like out in the real world? In the real world it would be true only if the traffic lights were out of order. How can one make a player understand that traffic lights are not meant to bother but are rather a mean to increase safety in road traffic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raffaele_ Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 If people followed more, or knew the rules of the road, it would be much easier. That intersection is very clear on precedence, so the main-central road drivers have to give precedence to who comes from the exit of the highway-bridge-smaller roads _raffaele_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raffaele_ Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I also forgot to add this that is not seen clearly in the pictures, wich is this sign that is located on the road coming from the highway: This sign mean that who is driving on the smaller road have the right of the precedence over other roads. I think on that intersection there are enough signs that clearly state how the flow should go, but in C-D is an exception _raffaele_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[C-S] Specik Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Lena' said: Hello Guys, bridge between calais duisburg, my opinion is here, road priority is on those coming from the bridge, but many players do not know this, They even think the road is their own. My opinion is that if the traffic lights are here a bit, wouldn't it reduce the traffic? Just like the traffic light on the duisburg road. it's just an idea, let's discuss this. What are your thoughts. https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4jzo https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4gSH https://imgyukle.com/i/Nm4DWG Good attention, lights would speed up the traffic and would improve sefety on this road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyaap Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Hey! The Brussels intersection is indeed a bit of a mess sometimes. I don't know if traffic lights will fix the issue. Because you are risking blocking the highway if a lot of trucks have to wait for the red light. And most of the traffic jams happen because people are gridlocking the intersection. People don't know that they can only drive if there is space for them to drive into. So everytime the person in front of them enters the intersection, they'll just blindly follow them and get stuck. Resulting in their trailer blocking the entrances and exits of the intersection. Something that can even still occur with traffic lights because people will either enter the intersection with a yellow light and get stuck. Or ignore the traffic lights. I'd love to try it out, and I really hope it will help. But i'm not sure if it will. Kind regards, partyaap Driver - Bruijn Logistics Rules | Knowledge Base | Support | Feedback | Recruitment | News | Events | Staff Team *Views and opinions expressed are my own and do not represent anything or anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 this is a good idea. When there are traffic lights, few Driving drive recklessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smacky. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Hello there, I do think that this is a very good suggestion but i don't think this will work. It's the same concept as what is already in force. This would require moderation from us staff to ensure that this is being followed. A little bit like the traffic lights on the exit from Duisburg. Again, i do like this suggestion. Thanks Smacky. (Zach) TruckersMP Events Team Need help? | Report a user | Appeal a ban | Request an event | Feedback | Want to join the team? Current Status - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulog Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hey there ! To avoid crashes and traffic jams at this intersection, maybe it could be better if the players from the highway have a stop or a give way. The players who are driving on C-D road won't be obligated to stop their trucks at each driver coming from this highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garsenault Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I think that the junction needs to be completely rebuilt, as I suggested almost a year ago in the suggestions subforum: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith645 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 The thing is people don't always look at the signs and the lights would cause more congestion witch also means C-D drivers will become impatient and in turn drive on the wrong side of the road to be able to get past the lights, it would become a moderators nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sis'Luna Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 23 hours ago, garsenault said: I think that the junction needs to be completely rebuilt, as I suggested almost a year ago in the suggestions subforum: the benelux will surely be rebuilt after germany so a little patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garsenault Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Callum455 said: The thing is people don't always look at the signs and the lights would cause more congestion witch also means C-D drivers will become impatient and in turn drive on the wrong side of the road to be able to get past the lights, it would become a moderators nightmare. Well they might as well remove all traffic lights then... the interchange currently in place is clearly not working and I think traffic lights are needed because many people don’t follow the yield signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mircea541real Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 In my opinion the traffic lights make the traffic run smoother but at some costs. If traffic lights would be added, there should not happen accidents and collision anymore, at least that's the idea, but the problem is the traffic will stack up even more. A better solution is to just switch the traffic indicators for priority: -traffic from the highway would have to yield -traffic from C-D road would have priority Currently, due to the fact that drivers under the bridge need to give priority to trucks coming from the highway causes jams. If the solution above is implemented, this issue would be solved. And it would be more logical to do this because traffic coming from the highway exits need to change their direction travel which requires slowing down and looking left/right before entering the intersection, fact which takes time and doesn't really works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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