Surname9540 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I have noticed that when you report someone and that person gets banned, the one who reported the perpetrator cannot see the ban duration. You also can't see the ban duration on the perpetrator's profile page. Why did they do this? Is there a way to get it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliia Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Hello ! I think this is part of the new way of dealing with bans, as it was announced to protect the TruckersMP staff team, we no longer know who is taking our report so everything is probably linked. Please note that in game we no longer see the ban time in the chat for those banned live in the game also. I think whether your proof must be permanently available, you will see very clearly that the person is permanently banned from the TMP service. Don't hesitate to continue reporting problem players, Have a nice day ! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix. Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 It is all about protecting personal details. Not just for staff, but also for the player getting banned. It does not concern the public how long the player gets banned. That is a personal detail only concerning the banned player and the TruckersMP Team. The public don't need that information. Another reason for this, is that the length issued is often subject to change, so removing it will remove some confusion when x amount of time is said at one time but it turns out to be y amount of time instead. 1 - I'm not saying I'm Wonder Woman; I'm just saying no one has ever seen me and Wonder Woman in the same room together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papy Panda Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Cαρταιn Μιx said: Another reason for this, is that the length issued is often subject to change, so removing it will remove some confusion when x amount of time is said at one time but it turns out to be y amount of time instead. Isn't it also to hide the fact that two similar bans, for example, never have the same duration ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstrider Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 My guess as the reasoning behind this was being stalked. 14 days, 3 months, would just have reporters checking their profile for the exact moment the ban was expired. So, they could stalk them and see if they learned from it. Or, catch them in the act to add another month onto their next ban. Like the replies have said, durations are no longer posted in game and profile bans only show "The user is currently banned". And since most evidence is Unlisted on Youtube, that's between The Reporter, The Offender, & Staff. Nobody's going to make the extra effort of asking everyone involved (witnesses) for their pov to add to the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_raffaele_ Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 11 hours ago, Papy Panda said: Isn't it also to hide the fact that two similar bans, for example, never have the same duration ? the first 3 bans are at the discretion of the staff member, a similar situation could have different lengths of ban; however, they have internal rules on the length of the first 3 bans 7 hours ago, Sunstrider said: My guess as the reasoning behind this was being stalked. Ye, it is certainly one of the reasons, along with harassment and hate; it is a well-known behaviour, especially in gaming related communities where you find many users who are overloaded with emotions _raffaele_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobrother Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 This observation was raised already (by me and other) a few months ago. It got introduced as par of the new "Game Moderation Strategy". The main reason (imho) is to prevent too much "noise"/"work" for staff with people complaining/discussing the ban length. Remember that the new Game Moderation Strategy was clearly designed to reduced the load on the Game Moderation team! And as mentioned above, another reason is to "protect" the banned persons so that people don't blame them. I personally don't get why banned people should be protected. Having it publicly visible should push them to behave more responsibly. Having old bans removed from their history after a 1 year is already a very good protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Nomad Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 17 hours ago, Foobrother said: Having old bans removed from their history after a 1 year is already a very good protection. As far as I know, old bans are not removed from the punishment history ever, except if the user was banned by mistake. Bans that are older than 12 months however will not be considered at the time of a new ban being issued. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobrother Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 hours ago, blabberbeak said: As far as I know, old bans are not removed from the punishment history ever, except if the user was banned by mistake. Bans that are older than 12 months however will not be considered at the time of a new ban being issued. Yes, I was talking about that + the fact that other players aren't able to see how many total bans someone had since they creating their account. You can only see the number of "active bans". i.e. someone who joined 3 years ago could have 1 active ban but 7 additional bans (older than 12 months) while someone else who joined 3 years ago as well might have 2 active bans and 0 additional ban (older than 12 months). It gives a different perspective on which kind of player you are looking at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[MCG] Valhalla Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 why do you care about how long the ban has been applied to them? At the end of the day, they will be free after the ban expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lena' Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It's all about protecting personal information, but if you report someone and the player is banned, does it matter how many days they are banned? --------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The duration of someone's ban is, to other players, irrelevant. Evidence has to be available for 3 months, with two exceptions. It only needs to available permanently if it pertains to rules §2.1 - Hacking/Bug/Feature abusing and §3 - Save Editing See §1.4 - Reporting users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.George Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Hey! It is also to do with the fact that you have the option to make your ban history private, so other people can't see your active/inactive bans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nody Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Heya! Since your topic has been inactive for over fourteen (14) days, I will lock and move it to our Archive section. We apply these procedures, in order to keep the forum organized and structured. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me. //Locked & Moved to Archive Kind Regards Nody, TruckersMP Forum Moderator Former + + Appeal your ban | Report a player | Feedback Ticket | Recruitment | Support | KB | Join my YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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