More realism for simulation servers, fun over realism for arcade servers

[apocalypsenzn]

Suggestion Description:

My suggestion is: ONLY ON SIMULATION SERVERS
1. Keep the stability of the truck and trailer locked at 50%. It should reduce the number of players that speed with a totaly rigid truck.
2. Lock the brakes configurations at 90%, it make the brakes safe and will force players to keep distance.
3. Lock the traffic offence option, so you can put a traffic monitor in dangerous area to avoid the work of the admins from keep the eyes in the areas. (You can do some modifications in D-C road that is the mostly dangerous area to keep drivers slow) If player want race in High populated area it will gain a traffic ticket.
4. Keeping talking about traffic offence: Change the value to higher numbers to force reckless drivers lost a lot of money as penalty.

5. Enable fatigue by default: i don't know how it gonna work, but you can force players to stop in rest areas to sleep.
6. Lock the fuel consumption to realistic consuption

7. (Optional) Force skilled parking for all players.

8. Other things about realism on simulation servers can be suggested by other forum members.

 

 

Why should it be added?:

This suggestion should reduce the number of players that commit infractions against the rules in High Populated Areas in all servers.
I know that several tools are created by dev team to keep trolls and reckless drivers away, but it is not enough, every weekend we have the report system always in VERY HIGH load.
There's too many people breaking the rules and the mainly reason is: Players use the facility of the game to play on simulator servers to break the rules always as possible.

This suggestion is simple: If you wanna simulate the game, you should to have more realism and have an experience next as possible of realism, if you wanna to have "fun over realism", you should to go to Arcade server.

Remember IT IS NOT to limit the freedom of the player. Play just for fun still exists.

The main problem is: A LOT OF PLAYERS just play in simulation servers because they can have the same options as an arcade server but with colision on. Arcade and simulation servers are not too different to make a player choose.
They only see: "Ohh wow!! This server has 4.000 players online, let's go racing here"

[Schak Bruijn]

/Moved to Game Suggestions

[apocalypsenzn]

4 years and the problems with reckless drivers still destroying the simulation propose.

 

Reckless players still using the simulation servers as "4fun" and ruining the simulation experience.
10 years of TMP, I think that's can be reconsidered as necessary.

 

I don't want to end the 4fun experience of these guys, they can have their server(s) to fly, overtake and crash without a real simulation, but the older and good players are quitting of game because of this limitations of unrealistic experience.

 

I'm reporting bad players since 2018 and they still doing the same thing, 300+ players banned and the report system still "High".
Do we need more admins? More reports? 1 admin for every city? AI admins? No, maybe if you listen me...

It's not about change the experience of the game, but to be real with the meaning of the word "Simulation".
As you done sometimes, modifications in the game gave a better vision of the D-C road and other places that was always problematic, but WHY NOT other things? Read my topic again and reconsider.

[InsanoDeath]

Its a non solvable problem as far as i know. Most people consider it as a game not simulator

[N8One]

I agree with InsanoDeath. More people see the simulator as a game, and most of them don´t even have a license or know any road rules.

[apocalypsenzn]

Bro, it's Euro Truck SIMULATOR.

[whitE19]

On 4/21/2024 at 9:03 AM, InsanoDeath said:

Its a non solvable problem as far as i know. Most people consider it as a game not simulator

I  agree. Some users really use trucks like racing cars.

[poopingcorn]

On 9/29/2020 at 2:38 PM, apocalypsenzn said:

Suggestion Description:

My suggestion is: ONLY ON SIMULATION SERVERS
1. Keep the stability of the truck and trailer locked at 50%. It should reduce the number of players that speed with a totaly rigid truck.
2. Lock the brakes configurations at 90%, it make the brakes safe and will force players to keep distance.
3. Lock the traffic offence option, so you can put a traffic monitor in dangerous area to avoid the work of the admins from keep the eyes in the areas. (You can do some modifications in D-C road that is the mostly dangerous area to keep drivers slow) If player want race in High populated area it will gain a traffic ticket.
4. Keeping talking about traffic offence: Change the value to higher numbers to force reckless drivers lost a lot of money as penalty.

5. Enable fatigue by default: i don't know how it gonna work, but you can force players to stop in rest areas to sleep.
6. Lock the fuel consumption to realistic consuption

7. (Optional) Force skilled parking for all players.

8. Other things about realism on simulation servers can be suggested by other forum members.

 

 

Why should it be added?:

This suggestion should reduce the number of players that commit infractions against the rules in High Populated Areas in all servers.
I know that several tools are created by dev team to keep trolls and reckless drivers away, but it is not enough, every weekend we have the report system always in VERY HIGH load.
There's too many people breaking the rules and the mainly reason is: Players use the facility of the game to play on simulator servers to break the rules always as possible.

This suggestion is simple: If you wanna simulate the game, you should to have more realism and have an experience next as possible of realism, if you wanna to have "fun over realism", you should to go to Arcade server.

Remember IT IS NOT to limit the freedom of the player. Play just for fun still exists.

The main problem is: A LOT OF PLAYERS just play in simulation servers because they can have the same options as an arcade server but with colision on. Arcade and simulation servers are not too different to make a player choose.
They only see: "Ohh wow!! This server has 4.000 players online, let's go racing here"

Introducing these settings on the current Simulation servers will not be ideal, as these settings are very strict for the player's playing preference. Additionally, it probably won't be as popular as a seperate server.

When TMP seperates casual players from simulation players into two different servers, it defeats the point of this MMO mod, to engage and have fun with others in this game. As you can tell, this community rather consists of casual players who don't aim to play on a 'hardcore' simulation style. So when they're restricted from the server due to these settings being locked and being told to play on Arcade, that will reduce the engagement of the Simulation server itself.

You've mentioned that this will reduce the amount of rule breakers in this mod, and I can assure you that it won't. These people have been on our platform since the beginning, and preventing them from ruining the experience is simply not an easy task to do, and by introducing these strict settings on the servers, it will not do as much, because they will still actively break the rules on the server. And these people are not only exclusively on TMP, but they're pretty much on any online games that are out there, it is definitely not easy to get rid of them.

TMP does aim for a realistic experience, but not to the point where they have to restrict a player's preference in order to make the game more realistic. ETS2 is also meant to be a game rather than a real simulator, you are allowed to play at any preference you like, as long as you don't break the rules and endanger any other player.

[MartinV90]

I also want the simulation server to actually be a simulation! The problem is truckers MP are all about numbers and they just want as many people to drive together even if those people have got different driving styles. you’ve got the fact that punishments are too lenient to the point they are not even punishments anymore. What is a 14 day ban gonna do if people work and only go online couple days a week for couple of hours? 
 

It’s amazes me how many people want an actual simulation server with no nonsense but the people that can make it happen just do not want to listen. 

[Truckers / 3D]

Good suggestion, but I find it hard to implement. After all, ETS2 is a simulation game, not a simulator like AC, and even if there were some rules about it, there's no way to prevent a portion of the players from breaking the rules and making it look less good than previously expected!

[Bеаn]

  

On 4/20/2024 at 11:05 PM, apocalypsenzn said:

4 years and the problems with reckless drivers still destroying the simulation propose.

 

Reckless players still using the simulation servers as "4fun" and ruining the simulation experience.
10 years of TMP, I think that's can be reconsidered as necessary.

 

I don't want to end the 4fun experience of these guys, they can have their server(s) to fly, overtake and crash without a real simulation, but the older and good players are quitting of game because of this limitations of unrealistic experience.

 

I'm reporting bad players since 2018 and they still doing the same thing, 300+ players banned and the report system still "High".
Do we need more admins? More reports? 1 admin for every city? AI admins? No, maybe if you listen me...

It's not about change the experience of the game, but to be real with the meaning of the word "Simulation".
As you done sometimes, modifications in the game gave a better vision of the D-C road and other places that was always problematic, but WHY NOT other things? Read my topic again and reconsider.

 

Reckless drivers have blighted our servers for years and will continue to do so for years to come. There is very little, from a moderation aspect, that could be implemented that isn't already. We have our rules, and all users are encouraged to follow them. Failure to follow the rules may result in punishment, as we all know.

There have been notable shifts in moderation, however. With us seemingly moving away from a hardcore simulator ("road to simulation") and more toward a simulator with more and more unrealistic aspects. These changes, however, are what the majority of people wished for. Although they may not be to the liking of some, they are what the majority seemingly wanted. It has to be said that this majority are probably the ones who are most likely to be breaching our rules and/or not looking for a simulation-style experience, so the results of surveys are bound to result in a favorable outcome for them.

There have been calls to move back to "road to simulation," and I am all for that. But, I don't think that's the general consensus among quite a number of players; especially younger players, of which, there are a lot. It seems now that they just want to drive and not really give two hoots about their standard of driving, at least, that's how it comes across to me. As long as we have this attitude, we'll never move past this problem.

[MartinV90]

The problem with TMP Is people want to use it for different BUT TMP are mainly about “Numbers”. They don’t offer a Simulation server, just servers with unrealistic speed! For example when in real life would a truck/trailer travel at 150km/h?
 

TMP attitude is”if you want simulation go play SP or convoy”  but honestly thats not the attitude or approach they should be showing.
 

simulation is always gonna be biggest most popular, but you can’t implement a simulation based environment. They could easily revamp Simulation 2. If people wish to drive faster there is still other servers to do so! 
 

TMP need to consider different driving styles snd adjust servers accordingly to offer “something for everyone”   

[Chema02]

As other users have said, some people see the simulator as just a game, many of them don't even know how to drive correctly. If anyone is unlucky enough to encounter someone like that on the road, making a report is the best way to positively contribute to the community. Even with taking appropriate measures, there will likely still be people who break the rules. In a perfect world, this might not happen, but unfortunately, we live in a world where there are many different personalities. The game is open and anyone can enter, which is why there is a reporting system to report these incidents. Many measures could be taken, but there would still be people breaking the rules.

 

Regards!

[Granite [SVK]]

Look at the age of this thread.

Simulation is long dead on TMP, not even necromancy will ever change anything.

Get over it and get out of here like me and everbody I've ever known did.