Public "alike event servers"

[Purrie]

Suggestion Name: Public "Event Servers"

Suggestion Description:

Every day there are a lot of community events taking place at TruckersMP servers. Just a few of them are on event servers with the added benefits of them but a lot of them take place on fi Simulation 2. Community events are IMHO one of the pillars of TruckersMP. But some events do not reach the threshold for getting an event server either because they don't get the 100 signups, or because the event managers would like to keep their events a bit smaller or fi they don't have the manpower to block all necessary roads as we usually see on event servers.

Organizing your events on public simulation servers however has their setbacks mainly in delaying/slowing down your convoy at tollbooths, border controls and rail crossings. Which are disabled at event servers. So this makes it hard(er) to organize events in fi Poland (many train crossings and tollbooths without auto-pass), or the balkans (many many MANY border controls) to name just a few examples. Even at events with a smaller amount of participants this causes huge slow downs let alone if you're close to the number of participants required for an event server. So many event managers try to avoid those slow down moments as much as possible or just add a minimum amount causing a lot of similar routes.

If a server was available with the same characteristics as an event server this would benefit those community events a lot for as well as the event managers as well as the participants with less slowing down for rail crossings / border control / tollbooths and other routes possible.

Specifics:
* Server is available 24/7 like SIM1/2 so no need to book it like an event server.
* No other support for it similar to other simulation servers.
* Speed could be 110 like SIM1 as in general events do not drive that fast.
* Public not participating in an event could also use the server if they would like to drive on a server without border controls etc.
* Multiple community events could take place at the same time so server should have enough slots.
* Also applicable to ProMods so you could add 2 servers. 1 for SCS "base"game as well as 1 for ProMods
* Normal TruckersMP rules would apply. Events would not get an exemption for blocking or breaking other rules. Similar to how it is when you organize your events on SIM1/SIM2

TL;DR Add a public server with tollbooths, railroad crossings & Border control disabled

Any example images: Imagine a border control gate being open all the time!

Why should it be added?: See description

[Martin_v8]

I feel like there should at least be some sort of booking system in place for this server, 

The main purpose of this would be for TMP staff to make sure that there would not be any events that would clash. It would only take 2 planned convoys to depart from the same city at the same time and it would be a nightmare, so having a booking system which would naturally allow for multiple convoys to take place at the same time on the map without the need of reaching 100 signups is more to just make sure that every event would run smoothly.

 

If an event manager tries to book their VTC convoy on this server and it would potentially clash with another Convoy already booked in, they would then have the option to adjust their route slightly (to avoid the other convoy) or have that specific convoy and simulation 2. 
 

Over the years on simulation 2, there have been a few convoys which have gone past each other (which is fine), and if more convoys would take place on this specific server there would have to be some sort of measure in place to make sure every convoy runs smoothly. 

[Ben0105 (GER)]

I like the idea, however I think a ProMods eventserver is not needed. There are not many events on ProMods, so I don't think it is needed. Anyway, for the base map (+DLCs of course) I really like the idea and believe it would be a huge befenit. 

[Martin_v8]

It could be called “Convoy Server” and keep the “Event Server” for 100+ sign ups & blocking roads. You would need to name it something so people don’t get confused between the 2 servers.. 

 

There could also potentially be a requirement to book your convoy on this server. Sign ups has to be 25+ (but you may not think this is Necessary). 

[xosho]

I think it's a great idea, especially to avoid encounters with other players who aren't part of the convoy and other factors like tollbooths and train crossings that can cause the convoy to slow down, as you said. However, Martin's comment was exactly my thoughts. There should be some kind of booking system to avoid the chance of having different convoys departing or arriving at the same city at the same time.

[Purrie]

12 hours ago, Martin_v8 said:

I feel like there should at least be some sort of booking system in place for this server, 

The main purpose of this would be for TMP staff to make sure that there would not be any events that would clash. It would only take 2 planned convoys to depart from the same city at the same time and it would be a nightmare, so having a booking system which would naturally allow for multiple convoys to take place at the same time on the map without the need of reaching 100 signups is more to just make sure that every event would run smoothly.

 

If an event manager tries to book their VTC convoy on this server and it would potentially clash with another Convoy already booked in, they would then have the option to adjust their route slightly (to avoid the other convoy) or have that specific convoy and simulation 2. 
 

Over the years on simulation 2, there have been a few convoys which have gone past each other (which is fine), and if more convoys would take place on this specific server there would have to be some sort of measure in place to make sure every convoy runs smoothly. 

While that may be the optimal system I don't think the TruckersMP EM's are waiting for more additional work of approving events. And for that matter nobody is going to stop you from actually departing from a conflicting city as it is still a public server.

Maybe devs could give a warning on screen if you try insert an event with the same departing or arriving city at the same time. Though I don't think it's that big of a problem as most events currently taking place are mostly from different cities. They just might cross each other along the route but even that is not that common.

To not burden the staff anymore I'd personally think an EM organizing an event on this server should check if it has no conflicts of departure/arrival/route.

12 hours ago, Ben0105 (GER) said:

I like the idea, however I think a ProMods eventserver is not needed. There are not many events on ProMods, so I don't think it is needed. Anyway, for the base map (+DLCs of course) I really like the idea and believe it would be a huge befenit. 

Welll it's sort of needed as ProMods has the same issues as SIM2 with border control/tollbooths etc. But I agree that there are more events organized on the non ProMods server. So it could be a small server with not that many slots.

[Purrie]

12 hours ago, xosho said:

I think it's a great idea, especially to avoid encounters with other players who aren't part of the convoy and other factors like tollbooths and train crossings that can cause the convoy to slow down, as you said. However, Martin's comment was exactly my thoughts. There should be some kind of booking system to avoid the chance of having different convoys departing or arriving at the same city at the same time.

While it may be the ideal scenario it's still meant as a public server without specific rules and there is no booking system or checks for people who organize events on SIM2 right now.

IMHO this idea has a much higher chance of getting there if the situation is similar to how SIM2 (or SIM1) convoys are right now. So no approval, no specific rules, no specific requirements. Just SIM2 but without Border Control/Tollbooths/RailRoads etc. For that matter they could just do do the change on SIM2 and I'd be happy with that as well.

[xosho]

1 hour ago, Purrie said:

While it may be the ideal scenario it's still meant as a public server without specific rules and there is no booking system or checks for people who organize events on SIM2 right now.

IMHO this idea has a much higher chance of getting there if the situation is similar to how SIM2 (or SIM1) convoys are right now. So no approval, no specific rules, no specific requirements. Just SIM2 but without Border Control/Tollbooths/RailRoads etc. For that matter they could just do do the change on SIM2 and I'd be happy with that as well.

You're right. I know that feature is lacking on normal servers right now anyway, and even without it, having a specific server without all the road restrictions you mentioned would already be a huge improvement.

Fortunately, I haven’t personally seen the issue of different convoys departing from or arriving at the same city at the same time, but I can only imagine the chaos it would cause. I suppose the chances of that happening are low, but it still exists. Rather than implementing a booking system, which might be difficult to set up, maybe the VTC ET/EM members could check the already planned convoys and try to avoid overlapping cities. With such a large map, that shouldn't be too difficult, I believe.

[Purrie]

7 hours ago, xosho said:

You're right. I know that feature is lacking on normal servers right now anyway, and even without it, having a specific server without all the road restrictions you mentioned would already be a huge improvement.

Fortunately, I haven’t personally seen the issue of different convoys departing from or arriving at the same city at the same time, but I can only imagine the chaos it would cause. I suppose the chances of that happening are low, but it still exists. Rather than implementing a booking system, which might be difficult to set up, maybe the VTC ET/EM members could check the already planned convoys and try to avoid overlapping cities. With such a large map, that shouldn't be too difficult, I believe.

Indeed, I would rather have the organizing EM's to check that there is no conflict in scheduling.

But tbh I haven't seen much conflicts in the past either and if they were it were mostly events organized outside of TruckersMP with a small group of attendees so no big issue

[xosho]

14 hours ago, Purrie said:

Indeed, I would rather have the organizing EM's to check that there is no conflict in scheduling.

But tbh I haven't seen much conflicts in the past either and if they were it were mostly events organized outside of TruckersMP with a small group of attendees so no big issue

It's a great idea. I fully support it!