Nidos Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I've been playing ETS2 for at least 3 years now, and I only just realized that my truck and trailer occasionally gets damage from driving. I never noticed this before. Is this a new mechanic in the game for general wear and tear, and is it only in TMP or is it the game itself? And no, I didn't crash or bump into anything for this to happen. How long has this been a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Baker Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I also noticed something similar after update 1.33 and I guess that's all because of the new physics. I hope one day they'll improve physics as It's pretty annoying to flip in every turn just because you have cargo and you're driving 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odion Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I've heard about this thing, never experienced tho. @[TAL Founder] BlackSkill, I suggest you to use those settings if you want to get rid of all of those things: g_suspension_stiffness "1" g_trailer_stability "1.5" g_truck_stability "1" Just paste them in the console or change the values in the profile's config.cfg. It might be a little catchy at the start, but it's far better in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoCR [ESP] Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 This has been happening since as long as I can remember. A perfect drive, you deliver with Excellent, but your truck has damage, usually only the tyres, 3-6 % depending on how many Km you drove. Since 1.33, the only difference is that you see separated damage: Truck - Trailer - Cargo. Before, there was only Truck - Trailer (because trailer was the same as cargo). And no, it has nothing to do with the new physics. Maybe the changes to these have affected to the damage somehow, but that damage was appearing long before the 1.33 release. It's better now, because you can have damage to the trailer, but if you manage to not damage the cargo, your delivery will be rated as "Excellent". Before 1.33, damage to the trailer was damage to the cargo, any value higher than 1% meant that the delivery could not be "Excellent". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay5 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Wear and tear damage has been in the game for a long time now. AFAIK it was already in version 1.9 which dates to early 2014. But I think it's ever been there since release. Anyway, with the current update (1.33) and the physics changes in it, the wear and tear may have been increased a (little) bit "Just because others break rules, does not grant you the permission to break the rules as well" Please drive respectful on the servers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dziada Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 This is the most noticeable if you drive at high speeds and then brake really harshly. The damage on your truck will be on the tyres, as said above ^^. So even if you crash sometimes, the damage will not increase because for example you damaged your engine or chassis, but you already had more damage than that on your tyres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreea RO Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I think this is happening sometimes when you over speed or hit the brakes harder than your suppose to but it happens also in different situations like driving too close to players or too close of the right/left side of the road and hit trees or houses, etc.Maybe these are some of the reasons, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[E-T CEO] Flying Cat Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Well, if I remember right, this isn't new, your tires are getting damage from wearing down. I'm not sure but I'm pretty confident that it's true. Have a good day Best regards Flying Cat ETS2 since end of 2013 ETS2 on steam since 2/17/2016 ETS2MP since 2/23/2016 TMP-Forum since 9/21/2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSCHGELDIN Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Tires, chassis, engine, cab etc. Every time you go on the road, the load will wear out and wear out. A small note When braking at high speed, the trailer may be out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxeRider Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is not a new thing. It has been in the game since I can remember. This happens for the tyres very fast and a little slower for the rest of the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichManSCTV Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 They changed vehicle physics and the damage models ! Subscribe to my Youtube Channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efekankara Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 İt's great idea but Unfortunately, this game can not be brought because the companies do not want their trucks to look bad in the game So I don't think this feature will come into play But I'm sure it will be nice if brought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 when you go across humps you tend to get a little bit of damage and normally when you brake really hard due to overspeeding its something normal and you cant really do much about it, so a little bit of damage will always be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Dawson Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Its just wear and tear damage of driving a long distance. A vehicle needs maintaince like in real life in this game. Which is a good thing as its a simulation game. I can't remember a time that it wasn't here. However, its nothing to be worried about. Its not a bug, just a simulation feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuly Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I don't know how long it has been going but it makes sense... things get damaged with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaitanFox Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I noticed this ages ago. So I think its been a thing in the game for at least a year or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSirViking Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 6:13 PM, Odion said: I've heard about this thing, never experienced tho. @[TAL Founder] BlackSkill, I suggest you to use those settings if you want to get rid of all of those things: g_suspension_stiffness "1" g_trailer_stability "1.5" g_truck_stability "1" Just paste them in the console or change the values in the profile's config.cfg. It might be a little catchy at the start, but it's far better in my opinion. Let me remind you of this rule: §2.1 - Hacking/Bug/Feature abusing - PERMANENT BAN Using any kind of tool to change gameplay, including but not limited to using the in-game console, trainers or cheat engine in order to bypass the speeding limiter, to jump hack, no collision hack or anything similar. Misusing features such as the ghost mode to cause damage to others or similar. particularly this: "Using any kind of tool to change gameplay, including but not limited to using the in-game console" you cant change your game with the ingame console. not if it alters gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichManSCTV Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, MrSirViking said: Let me remind you of this rule: §2.1 - Hacking/Bug/Feature abusing - PERMANENT BAN Using any kind of tool to change gameplay, including but not limited to using the in-game console, trainers or cheat engine in order to bypass the speeding limiter, to jump hack, no collision hack or anything similar. Misusing features such as the ghost mode to cause damage to others or similar. particularly this: "Using any kind of tool to change gameplay, including but not limited to using the in-game console" you cant change your game with the ingame console. not if it alters gameplay. Wait a minute... like a year ago when they did they physics update I was told by a staff member to just edit it in the config files or console to kinda bring back the old settings, now my truck does not randomly shoot into the air when I hit a small bump anymore. The weight feels more realistic and grounded. You are a game mod! You should read the rule better!! 1 hour ago, MrSirViking said: in order to bypass the speeding limiter, to jump hack, no collision hack or anything similar. 1 hour ago, MrSirViking said: Hacking/Bug/Feature abusing This is just for abusing the console, it does not say you cant use it at all! Subscribe to my Youtube Channel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odion Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 15 hours ago, RichManSCTV said: Wait a minute... like a year ago when they did they physics update I was told by a staff member to just edit it in the config files or console to kinda bring back the old settings, now my truck does not randomly shoot into the air when I hit a small bump anymore. The weight feels more realistic and grounded. You are a game mod! You should read the rule better!! This is just for abusing the console, it does not say you cant use it at all! As you said, changing the physics settings to be more stable isn't abuse. As long as you can still change the trailer stability and brake intensity in the default game settings, truck stability and suspension stiffness should be allowed too, because it makes the truck more stable, and it doesn't give you any advantage than other users, as long as they can use this feature too. Same goes for the winter mod: you can choose to either use it or not. Using it will make your truck less stable at high speed and may cause many accidents because of it. @MrSirViking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSirViking Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 hours ago, Odion said: As you said, changing the physics settings to be more stable isn't abuse. As long as you can still change the trailer stability and brake intensity in the default game settings, truck stability and suspension stiffness should be allowed too, because it makes the truck more stable, and it doesn't give you any advantage than other users, as long as they can use this feature too. Same goes for the winter mod: you can choose to either use it or not. Using it will make your truck less stable at high speed and may cause many accidents because of it. @MrSirViking On 2/2/2019 at 10:46 PM, RichManSCTV said: Wait a minute... like a year ago when they did they physics update I was told by a staff member to just edit it in the config files or console to kinda bring back the old settings, now my truck does not randomly shoot into the air when I hit a small bump anymore. The weight feels more realistic and grounded. You are a game mod! You should read the rule better!! This is just for abusing the console, it does not say you cant use it at all! I was told that the only settings you can edit on your trucks are the things you can edit from the ingame settings menu. So thats Trailer Stability and breaking intensity cause you have a slider to use for that (and you can only set it within what the slider does). So since Suspension Stiffness has no setting to change, changing it using the console would be abuse of the console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoCR [ESP] Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 @MrSirViking There are many settings that can be changed using the console and are not available in the Options window of the game. Using the console to change some settings is not wrong, abusing it can be wrong. It's also very difficult to tell when players have messed with those values if they didn't "overcharge" the new settings to some ridiculous values. I decided to try (in SP) by lowering the game's default values which are: Trailer stability=0.5 Truck stability=0.5 Braking intensity=1.0 Suspension stiffness=1.0 Most people will probably try to override those values to set them higher so they can go faster with a lower risk of crashing, I did just the opposite, my current values are: Trailer stability=0.2 Truck stability=0.2 Braking intensity=0.5 Suspension stiffness=0.5 The truck "feels" a lot more real and I haven't had any problems to keep it under control, even driving with the winter mod and physics enabled. But now I'm scared... You're saying that I can be permanently banned for having changed values that have no correspondance in the menus (truck stability and suspension stiffness)? What about this: I mean that since the game options allow the trailer stability to be changed between 0 and 0.5, using the console to set it at 1.5 should be more bannable than changing the truck stability or suspension stiffness to values within the regular range (0-0.5 and 0-1.0), don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurklerRS Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 pretty sure the wear and tear is a long-time feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 to be honest i noticed the same thing but i think it has been implemented for a while now, or thats what i got told anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSirViking Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/4/2019 at 3:15 PM, FernandoCR [ESP] said: @MrSirViking There are many settings that can be changed using the console and are not available in the Options window of the game. Using the console to change some settings is not wrong, abusing it can be wrong. It's also very difficult to tell when players have messed with those values if they didn't "overcharge" the new settings to some ridiculous values. I decided to try (in SP) by lowering the game's default values which are: Trailer stability=0.5 Truck stability=0.5 Braking intensity=1.0 Suspension stiffness=1.0 Most people will probably try to override those values to set them higher so they can go faster with a lower risk of crashing, I did just the opposite, my current values are: Trailer stability=0.2 Truck stability=0.2 Braking intensity=0.5 Suspension stiffness=0.5 The truck "feels" a lot more real and I haven't had any problems to keep it under control, even driving with the winter mod and physics enabled. But now I'm scared... You're saying that I can be permanently banned for having changed values that have no correspondance in the menus (truck stability and suspension stiffness)? What about this: I mean that since the game options allow the trailer stability to be changed between 0 and 0.5, using the console to set it at 1.5 should be more bannable than changing the truck stability or suspension stiffness to values within the regular range (0-0.5 and 0-1.0), don't you think? But you also gotta remember that the Console is not enabled by default. Its something you have to change a settings file to get. And i an full aware that its gonna be hard for me to prove that you changed anything in that console unless its obvious. But none the less its still against the rules of §2.1, thats just how it is. I diddent make the rules i just know and follow them But as long as you keep the values within reason i am not sure anyone is gonna catch you doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoCR [ESP] Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 @MrSirViking That's completely fair. But there's the other question: Staff members suggesting users to USE the console to override the maximum game settings (maximum stability for trailer is 0.5 within the game and it's been suggested to set it at 1.5)). I mean, how can some staff members say that they will ban players for doing what other staff members suggested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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