TruckersMP & GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation)

[novice]

1 hour ago, grundi2601 said:

If anyone is banned permanently, he/she can delete the account, create another account with new steam account. But he/she can not longer be banned for ban evading because TruckersMP can't save e.g. IP's, unique PC information on the server if anyone deletes the own account?! I think this could be an opened door for ban evaders.

I have the same question, how can i report a ban evader, if he deletes all accounts? What should i write in evidence section, if all banned accounts are deleted?

[Aragon]

1 hour ago, [EvoQue] BUSH said:

good news
but i have question. what can we do now with guys who is evading ban. Now as i understand, guys who had 6 or less bans can easily delete their account and just use new one. And if u just here for example same voice of this guy(who is evading ban) in cb, u can do nothing now?

 

 

Hi, 

 

Please refer to the following:

 

2 hours ago, ChrisPatrol said:

If I delete my account, will my bans be deleted too?
No. Your bans are linked to your Steam ID which is public information displayed on Steam. If you sign up again, your bans will be reactivated.

 

When I delete my account, what information will stay and what will be deleted?
Information that will stay: Bans, appeals, and reports will remain as they are not personal information, and are used as evidence.

 

Everything should be logged, so users will not be able to use this feature as a method of avoiding a ban.

[novice]

9 minutes ago, Aragon said:

If you sign up again, your bans will be reactivated.

If i sign up again, but with new steam account, bans will not be reactivated and since server logs are deleting too, there is no way you can tell if user is ban evading. Also the question about reporting ban evaders remains open, how can i report a guy for ban evading, if all accounts are deleted and he is playing with the new steam/truckersmp account? 

[Cady]

But if you store data about the bans after an account was deleted it would be against GDPR

[RayRay5]

^No, because it's not PID (Personal Identifiable Data)

[Cady]

But why are they saving the steam id?

 

(sry im a nerd)

[novice]

^ They are saving "steam id" and "reports" to restore them, if a user decide to sign up again with the same steam account.

[RayRay5]

Because the Steam Id is not a PID, it's a public accessable information

[Cady]

1 minute ago, RayRay5 said:

Because the Steam Id is not a PID, it's a public accessable information

But this information in a personal information

[RayRay5]

Then tell me how I could identify you personally with a given SteamID.

(For example how can I get to know your real name or place of living from it?)

[Cady]

In the steam profile there is a field where the real name stands

[RayRay5]

^But that data is neither stored nor processed by TMP.

That's Steam's "problem".

However, you provided the information on your own choice, not because you had to

[Guest]

Those who are banned from the using the report system can use the reporting system when they delete their account and reactivate

[Cady]

But bcs they(TruckersMP) stored the steam id even after a person would delete  his acccount they could find out his real name...

[RayRay5]

^Again, the data [in this case; name] is stored on steam's servers, not on the servers of TMP.

[EULas]

Great Works Thanks! 

[UGUR.60]

Good work TruckersMP

[Grundii]

1 hour ago, RayRay5 said:

Because the Steam Id is not a PID, it's a public accessable information

But I think it is very difficult to find out an ban evading guy (guy who deletes his/her banned profile & creates new steam profile & TruckersMP account) only with the steam account information. But other data like IP can not be saved on the TruckersMP server if the ban evading guy deletes his/her account in TruckersMP. So, I think, TruckersMP can only detect ban evaders with reports from the community or only with the information given by steam.

[Glada_Laxen]

My data dumps are also empty. Just opens a new tab that shows "{ }". Tested on both Google Chrome and Firefox Quantum. 

[Killua // Ireland ^_^]

Great Work Great to see the bans linked with steam ID's preventing people from deleting their accounts to get around perma bans

[weezy]

2 minutes ago, Glada_Laxen said:

My data dumps are also empty. Just opens a new tab that shows "{ }". Tested on both Google Chrome and Firefox Quantum. 

 

Same. 

 

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Devs will look into it -ChrisPatrol

 

[HumaneWolf]

Regarding empty data dumps:

I am not sure what causes this, and it will be investigated.

 

Regarding ban evasion:

GDPR was gonna make it harder, and there was no way we can avoid that. We can just try to make it better, which we will.

 

Regarding us storing bans tied to steam ID:

Steam ID is made public by steam, and we treat it as public information. Any remaining connection your steam ID has to you when your TruckersMP account is deleted is either game logs which have not been deleted yet, or it is a connection created by steam, which they are responsible for.

 

Some short answers right now, since I'm kind of tired, but you get the general gist.

[LUIG]

Good WORK <3

[Dr'Dri]

Good

 

[novice]

I will just leave it here  

 

Spoiler

Now he will come back with brand new steam account and will become a TruckersMP member and no one will be able to tell if he is ban evading.