novice Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, grundi2601 said: If anyone is banned permanently, he/she can delete the account, create another account with new steam account. But he/she can not longer be banned for ban evading because TruckersMP can't save e.g. IP's, unique PC information on the server if anyone deletes the own account?! I think this could be an opened door for ban evaders. I have the same question, how can i report a ban evader, if he deletes all accounts? What should i write in evidence section, if all banned accounts are deleted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragon Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, [EvoQue] BUSH said: good news but i have question. what can we do now with guys who is evading ban. Now as i understand, guys who had 6 or less bans can easily delete their account and just use new one. And if u just here for example same voice of this guy(who is evading ban) in cb, u can do nothing now? Hi, Please refer to the following: 2 hours ago, ChrisPatrol said: If I delete my account, will my bans be deleted too? No. Your bans are linked to your Steam ID which is public information displayed on Steam. If you sign up again, your bans will be reactivated. When I delete my account, what information will stay and what will be deleted?Information that will stay: Bans, appeals, and reports will remain as they are not personal information, and are used as evidence. Everything should be logged, so users will not be able to use this feature as a method of avoiding a ban. 2 Signature made by Aestrial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Aragon said: If you sign up again, your bans will be reactivated. If i sign up again, but with new steam account, bans will not be reactivated and since server logs are deleting too, there is no way you can tell if user is ban evading. Also the question about reporting ban evaders remains open, how can i report a guy for ban evading, if all accounts are deleted and he is playing with the new steam/truckersmp account? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cady Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 But if you store data about the bans after an account was deleted it would be against GDPR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay5 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 ^No, because it's not PID (Personal Identifiable Data) 8 "Just because others break rules, does not grant you the permission to break the rules as well" Please drive respectful on the servers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cady Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 But why are they saving the steam id? (sry im a nerd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 ^ They are saving "steam id" and "reports" to restore them, if a user decide to sign up again with the same steam account. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay5 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Because the Steam Id is not a PID, it's a public accessable information "Just because others break rules, does not grant you the permission to break the rules as well" Please drive respectful on the servers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cady Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, RayRay5 said: Because the Steam Id is not a PID, it's a public accessable information But this information in a personal information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay5 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Then tell me how I could identify you personally with a given SteamID. (For example how can I get to know your real name or place of living from it?) "Just because others break rules, does not grant you the permission to break the rules as well" Please drive respectful on the servers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cady Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 In the steam profile there is a field where the real name stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay5 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 ^But that data is neither stored nor processed by TMP. That's Steam's "problem". However, you provided the information on your own choice, not because you had to "Just because others break rules, does not grant you the permission to break the rules as well" Please drive respectful on the servers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Those who are banned from the using the report system can use the reporting system when they delete their account and reactivate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cady Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 But bcs they(TruckersMP) stored the steam id even after a person would delete his acccount they could find out his real name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay5 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 ^Again, the data [in this case; name] is stored on steam's servers, not on the servers of TMP. "Just because others break rules, does not grant you the permission to break the rules as well" Please drive respectful on the servers. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EULas Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Great Works Thanks! Languages/Diller: (primary) / Useful Links/Önemli Bağlantılar: TruckersMP Rules/Kuralları | Recrutiment/İşe alım | Knowledge-base/Bilgi bankası | Forum Warning System/Uyarı Sistemi: [TR] [ENG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGUR.60 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Good work TruckersMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundii Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, RayRay5 said: Because the Steam Id is not a PID, it's a public accessable information But I think it is very difficult to find out an ban evading guy (guy who deletes his/her banned profile & creates new steam profile & TruckersMP account) only with the steam account information. But other data like IP can not be saved on the TruckersMP server if the ban evading guy deletes his/her account in TruckersMP. So, I think, TruckersMP can only detect ban evaders with reports from the community or only with the information given by steam. 1 Kind regards, ɢʀᴜɴᴅɪɪ Retired Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glada_Laxen Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 My data dumps are also empty. Just opens a new tab that shows "{ }". Tested on both Google Chrome and Firefox Quantum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killua // Ireland ^_^ Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Great Work Great to see the bans linked with steam ID's preventing people from deleting their accounts to get around perma bans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Glada_Laxen said: My data dumps are also empty. Just opens a new tab that shows "{ }". Tested on both Google Chrome and Firefox Quantum. Same. Quote Devs will look into it -ChrisPatrol ღ ɢᴇʀᴍᴀɴ ᴇɴɢɪɴᴇᴇʀɪɴɢ ღ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumaneWolf Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Regarding empty data dumps: I am not sure what causes this, and it will be investigated. Regarding ban evasion: GDPR was gonna make it harder, and there was no way we can avoid that. We can just try to make it better, which we will. Regarding us storing bans tied to steam ID: Steam ID is made public by steam, and we treat it as public information. Any remaining connection your steam ID has to you when your TruckersMP account is deleted is either game logs which have not been deleted yet, or it is a connection created by steam, which they are responsible for. Some short answers right now, since I'm kind of tired, but you get the general gist. 3 HumaneWolf - Website - Twitter - GitHub Ex-Developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUIG Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Good WORK <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr'Dri Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I will just leave it here Spoiler Now he will come back with brand new steam account and will become a TruckersMP member and no one will be able to tell if he is ban evading. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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