What's with the hate towards cars? [INCLUDES POLL]

[Aisopos]

This is rather strange, I've been seeing it everywhere.

It's always "cars are an issue" blah blah blah.

Just to lead you into this, cars are a good transportation to discover the map when you want to take a break from following the GPS, sure, you could do that with a truck, but is it really that great?

Slow acceleration, forced to follow the truck limits, is that what heaven is to you?

 

Sure, cars cause problems, but that's only how it seems to you.

It's the driver, not the vehicle.

Just because the bad drivers have coincidentally chosen the cars doesn't mean it wouldn't happen without cars.

They're just as reckless, regardless of the vehicle.

 

As for the car drivers, to improve your driving skills with the magnificent (totally) Scout Extra_D, try following the speed limit and increasing your breaking intensity to 100%

[RapidFellow]

Knives can be used to prepare a meal.

Knives can be also used to hurt people.

 

I think it's the same with the cars. We should blame those who abuse them.

[Rev.]

The cars themselves are fine. Sure, the configuration could be updated to better the handling/brakes but once you're used to it and you've increased your braking intensity it's fine.

 

I'm not gonna' lie, if I see a car speeding towards me in my wing-mirror I do move over as precaution (especially if they're bright colours — it's means they're extra bad at driving).

 

It's a trust-basis issue and it also depends where you drive. If you drive in the wrong places e.g. in/around C-D then obviously you're going to experience problems but in effect; you're also a problem for being there.

 

As @DrEGZo said: "We should blame those who abuse them."

[Aisopos]

1 minute ago, Rev. said:

The cars themselves are fine. Sure, the configuration could be updated to better the handling/brakes but once you're used to it and you've increased your braking intensity it's fine.

 

I'm not gonna' lie, if I see a car speeding towards me in my wing-mirror I do move over as precaution (especially if they're bright colours — it's means they're extra bad at driving).

 

It's a trust-basis issue and it also depends where you drive. If you drive in the wrong places e.g. in/around C-D then obviously you're going to experience problems but in effect; you're also a problem for being there.

 

As @DrEGZo said: "We should blame those who abuse them."

A safety regulation of extra bright glowing cars for bad drivers would be golden 

[ShawnCZek]

Cars are not a problem, but the car drivers are.

Look for example at C-D road. Cars are small and fast. So why should someone wait there in the traffic jam? Everyone in the car then overtakes other waiting trucks and ignores rules.

Same with ramming others. If the driver goes too fast in the car, trucks have almost no time to react when the driver is going to ram them.

 

Previous experiences made me slow down when I see a car waiting near the road. And that is why I started to record my journeys, too.

And respect to every car driver who respects rules and does not go fast as hell.

[Carrera18]

I am among you as a Skoda driver. I spent all my time playing with Skoda. Until this time, I thought everyone else hated Skoda. I see that in the meantime, many people with Skoda have no problem. I'm glad that. 

[Guest]

Well, I have personally no problem with cars. I just avoid the Calais-Duisburg route aswell as the Brussel-Rotterdam route.

Nevertheless, if you don't want to have cars, there are servers such as EU1 (with speed limiter) and EU3 (without speed limiter). There are no cars. 

So in my oppinion cars don't need to removed or something, because there are servers, where cars are 'forbidden'. 

Cars are actually a good thing to travel from A-B to explore parts of the map. 

Of course the car could be improved (specially the physic) but if you know how to drive them or just drive slow they are totally fine. 

 

[Bull [NL]]

Also don't have problem with the cars, many people drive normal there is a small group that think they play F1.
There also more trucks that drive reckless than car drivers, if you play on EU2 you make your own choice and take the risk there is more change to be hit then on the other servers.

[Killua // Ireland ^_^]

I've got no problem with the cars and drive them myself sometimes Cars are not the problem, its the way some people drive them and those people drive trucks just as bad too, If your playing on EU2 (especially on C-D) you see plenty of bad car and truck drivers. I think alot of hate before for the cars was caused by the fact that EU1 (speed limited) was the only server with no cars so those wanting to speed and drive without cars had no options but now that made EU3 a no car server I have found that there has been a massive reduction here with the argument about cars

[Aisopos]

1 hour ago, Rev. said:

The cars themselves are fine. Sure, the configuration could be updated to better the handling/brakes but once you're used to it and you've increased your braking intensity it's fine.

 

 

1 hour ago, Shawk2k50 said:

Well, I have personally no problem with cars. I just avoid the Calais-Duisburg route a swell as the Brussel-Rotterdam route.

 

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52 minutes ago, Bull[NL] said:

Also don't have problem with the cars, many people drive normal there is a small group that think they play F1.

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50 minutes ago, Killua // Ireland said:

I've got no problem with the cars and drive them myself sometimes Cars are not the problem, its the way some people drive them and those people drive trucks just as bad too

 

 

What I've gathered from all this is that people hate the drivers, and some of them think the solution is to remove them altogether.

[sgpch1983]

the car is technicly outdated and needs to be updated to the current and future patch version.

the brakes could be fixed in the cars files while updateing it too..

 

its very unstable to drive right now and has errors.

[Guest]

The car itself is not the problem. Before we had cars people used volvo's and scanias to ram people and it was just as effective as using a car.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm still in favor of having the car removed reason being it atracts the wrong kind of player to MP.

[SpeedyTMP]

I agree with most of you, its the drivers not the car. Yes the config should be tweeked on the cars so it does not feel like your still driving a truck. Bad drivers will always be bad drivers in a car or even a truck

[FernandoCR [ESP]]

I'm 100% with @Iron Spirit

I've tried the cars, when they were released. First, offline (I didn't trust myself enough to use the car around other players). Then I learned that you need to keep a sensible speed and increase the brakes intensity, I did some routes in a car, discovering roads or simply wasting some time. Then I stopped using it because I decided that it's useless. Driving my truck, I can explore the same roads, and if I want to take a job, I don't need to switch vehicles. Also, in a truck I don't need to stop every 10 minutes to re-fuel. Later on, I became afraid of cars, because almost every one I saw was driving recklessly fast, causing accidents, etc. Currently, I couldn't care less about cars in ETS2MP. There are none in EU#1 server 

[TeamDeer]

I like the cars and they are a nice touch to TMP. However, the brakes are indeed bad which really isn't a problem when you are driving the speed limit. Using a wheel and pedals makes the car very controllable as compared to mouse and keyboard. The other issue I have with them is the fact that cars seem to have too much torque on the bottom half making them slide when coming from a stop and making a turn which usually results people in turning into the oncoming lane. Another was of thinking of this is that the steering is not very tight at slow speed in fact it sort of feels like driving a bus with no power steering. The brake issue really is not that bad with brake sensitivity all the way up and with the speed limit.

[Syntackz]

TMP has added skoda car just to use in proper way for escorting convoys and for admins to patrol which shows realism. But some people say cars are easy for exploring map., SCS releases new map every 6+ months and that's a lot of time to explore. some people feel this game as racing simulator.Please this is truck simulation game, if you want to race with others just play NFS or Forza games which most best to you.

[Guest]

I'm a little scared because of the cars because they are going too fast and doing trolls and their engines are too loud 

[Loqrin]

It's a mixed debate for me. Personally, I don't really use the cars because I play the game to drive trucks - what the game was made for. If I wanted to drive cars I'd play a different game, to be honest.

 

But, I find that the cars are useful and pose a great addition to the game. Another means of transport, another form of vehicle to see on the roads besides the trucks.

The car is fast and nimble and can get ya to locations very quickly and easily.

 

Though, I dislike the cars because of its attraction of a certain group of people; those people who feel like since there is a car in the game, the game is now a racing sim rather than a trucking sim.

Although the actions done are done by those who drive the car and they should be blamed, the car does attract a certain group of people and therefore it is the car's fault to an extent.

 

Overall, the cars aren't really a problem and I don't have a personal vendetta against them. They shouldn't be removed and should stay as it is - with EU#1 having no cars.

[[MCG] Kien Giang]

Skoda can run over 200 km/h. It's very dangerous xD

[*Ulises*]

Hi.

 

the cars is a topic, the only thing that bothers me about the cars is that they collide, blocking the road, and crashing into you.

[Heavy_Haul_24/7]

Cars are handy to escort Oversize Loads and Convoys. They are also quite Usefull to discover Map regions.

In the Right Hands, this Vehicle is a Usefull Tool.

But, sadly, not everyone uses them for these purposes.

 

The Only thing that bothers me, is that the brakes are extremely weak, and that the car has an extreme high mass (probably because the data for the Vehicle was taken from a Truck).

[Carrera18]

4 hours ago, [ETS2MCG] Kien Giang said:

Skoda can run over 200 km/h. It's very dangerous

I usually like to drive with 250 km/h. if you know how to control, you can do it. If you do not believe you can control, do not speed with Skoda. Knowing the car's physics rules gives you safe driving.

but if you do not like a ban, do not do it.

[[MCG] Kien Giang]

On 2/6/2018 at 4:18 AM, Carrera18 said:

I usually like to drive with 250 km/h. if you know how to control, you can do it. If you do not believe you can control, do not speed with Skoda. Knowing the car's physics rules gives you safe driving.

but if you do not like a ban, do not do it.

ah i like it because I want to fly xD

[FernandoCR [ESP]]

@Carrera18 and @[ETS2MCG] Kien Giang, you are both emphasizing what most people are saying in their answers. It's not the cars, it's the players who use them as if the game was about racing. AFAIK, in Europe only some German autobahns allow car drivers to go as fast as they want and seeing how the German highways have been modelled and how the Scout behaves, doing more than 160-170 Km/h is completely reckless even on those roads, unless there is nobody else in several Km around (which is something that the player can't know). Doing 250 Km/h in the car is the same as asking for trouble, for yourself (OK with it) and for others on the same road (leading to the famous RRR rule - Record, Report, Relax). I don't have enough fingers to count the number of car drivers that I reported and got banned for ramming my truck because they lost control while doing high speeds. If you really can handle that vehicle at 250 Km/h and keep it under control, good for you. But most of the players using the car can't keep it under control doing 180 Km/h, those players are the danger, not their vehicles.

[MrCipr]

People are using this cars for racing, thats all. When i see those cars on the road C - D, its very dangerous. :-)