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I don't really see a problem... IF a rule is *strictly* enforced where these loads are not to be taken unless there are two pilot cars present (one in front and one behind). So, in other words, a minimum of three people would have to be involved for such a load. All three would be responsible for taking extra care with these as well (other than for deliberate trolls, of course). With great power, comes great responsibility. lol
Of course, the AI vehicles would have to be completely disabled.
I also like the idea that was mentioned earlier about a different coloured marker on the GPS, and/or with a "W" on it or something.

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@RickyWong Me and a friend were discussing almost exactly that on teamspeak yesterday. 

 

We speculated that if it did come to multiplayer, there'd have to be people driving the escort vehicles, which doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, would actually give me a reason to drive my scout car for once (no really, I've driven it once when it came out, never again xD).

 

Perhaps it should only be allowed on non-collision servers? I know it sounds kind of crap that way but to me it sounds like the simplest way of pleasing the people that want to use it on mp, whilst having the least amount of problems for the staff, again suggesting that it's even possible to have it on MP.

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A permanent ghostmode for players driving ST jobs would be the best solution. It will be unrealistic, but safety is more important than realism. Take in mind ghost mode does not prevent crashing with the environment so they still have to drive carefully.

 

GM could work this way: once you accept a special transport delivery you enter ghost mode, which lasts until you deliver the cargo or cancel the job, after that you will leave permanent GM and enter the normal temporary ghostmode we have now, this is to prevent trolls from abusing it.

 

But i think the devs know much more than any of us in how to deal with DLCs. We can have concerns, suggest different ideas but only the devs have the code and know how it works, so they will almost always have the best solution for this.

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8 hours ago, starduke38 said:

i hope you going not allowed Special Transport trailers at C-D road. If you let players drive on this road with big trailers it's gonna turn in a real chaos.

i tried out it in single player, the only place close to dortmund that you can get a special transport, even so when you take it, you have to be on your own road destiny like you cant hit pilot cars, it resets you to the latest save location. they can implement a thing that if you get far away from the route like when you leave your trailer in a distance, you will lose your job. they can do a thing like it, if you go far away from the destiny it will force you to reset your save location or cancel your job. in that way driving in c-d road will be blocked.

 

i have read some comments, 

everything could be solved with ghost mode for people who is carrying a ST trailer,

they could make something like leaving your trailer; you get too far away from destination road, your job will be cancelled,
they can adjust hitbox of the trailer,

they can make a server for no ST trailer like they did with NO CARS server; people can drive in eu2 server with st and if people dont want to crash into the hitboxes they can drive in no cars server with no st trailer. that would also fix a lot of people's problem.

there is an issue that i would like to say, if you are getting trolled so much with cars nor trucks, it will not change with new dlc. there will be trollers out there. even now admins are not so available. so not adding this dlc in to the mp will not fix anything. if you even add it there will be still trollers and crashes...

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in fact, TRUCKERSMP,  you can add those trailers to the game, because that special traielrs jobs has their own routes!!!!

you cant drive those trailers were you want!! ....all players go ahead with the trailer he take, he cant drive back with that trailer.... in that case it may cause players to meet eachother face to face with eachother...... but there's no jobs like that!!! ......think about that!!! for exemple: I TAKE A JOB WITH THE ROUTE BETWEEN "DRESDEN - WROCLAW" ......i cant drive in other way, only to that direction, i cant drive from WROCLAW to DRESDAN .... :) 

 

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exactly @boieru' like i said in my previous comment. there are so many ways to get this dlc into mp. i dont want them not to add this dlc into mp. like i said people can drive in nocars server(ofc they will add no ST ) so people wont face any large trailers.

 

here is an example what happens when you go out of the route. So please dont say anything about C-D road.

 

 

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if there will be no kids....... man will be soooooo nice!!!!

how about they do in real life what they do in game?????

from game you can learn, you can adapt your driving skills!! ......why are people so terrible in game???

just think about there will be at least 10 players one after another with this special trailer in MP.....man that will be COOL :ph34r:

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Aight. So today I tried 3 more trailers from the mod, and I had a little issue when passing by a truck on a 2 lanes road (between a lane and a road sign). I crashed, obviously. The thing is: That truck didn't have a special cargo trailer, and still the situation was weird. I don't want to imagine crossing by a trailer with a special cargo on it, between 2 sings, on a small road. That would be a 100% crash (unless there's no collision with the traffic). With that being said, it could be enabled on one of the servers that has the collision mode disabled. 

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Brussel to Amsterdam is cool man. usually trollers are on calais duisburg road, and yet they only block that little tunnel under the main road so i dont think that brussel-amsterdam road will be a pain... the thing is the route is not at crowded roads many time like i drove at least 6-7 jobs with ST and only faced brussel-amsterdam. sometimes it appears in scandinavia. good thing is you cant go anywhere except the route that job gives you, so it will be bad for trollers :D

 

@boieru' sure there will be kids, good thing is you cant go anywhere except the route that job gives you. and good thing is hacking is a perma ban now which i am lucky i got banned before new rules, though my hacking was not so a threat....

 

@[GER] Lasse tmp devs can block that job which have c-d road in route so it would be cool. and if you go play offline there is no route that going to that way from railroads way. guess scs thought that it wouldnt fit in there :D

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Can't see how this would work on MP, as you've mentioned it will cause all sorts of problems and traffic being a key one related to how slow these will no doubt move and the effort needed to turn.

 

I quite like the little pilot-like van's though haha.

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Everything is possible, would like to see this Special DLC in MP.
Of course not on the current roads, if I have read well there are coming new roads for the Special DLC so you can not drive anywhere.
In real life there are rules for Special Cargo such as times when they are allowed on the road and are allowed to drive on certain roads, not everywhere.
For the developers of ETS2MP, this will be quite a challenge to put this into the MP.
I do not doubt that the developers can do this, we shall see if the Special DLC will also come in MP.
I will not buy it until I am sure that the Special DLC is MP ready.

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@Bull[NL] i bought it, cheap for me its only 12 TL (almost 3 dollars) im having fun in single player while im banned :D

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14 hours ago, Reaper said:

@RickyWong Me and a friend were discussing almost exactly that on teamspeak yesterday. 

 

We speculated that if it did come to multiplayer, there'd have to be people driving the escort vehicles, which doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, would actually give me a reason to drive my scout car for once (no really, I've driven it once when it came out, never again xD).

 

Perhaps it should only be allowed on non-collision servers? I know it sounds kind of crap that way but to me it sounds like the simplest way of pleasing the people that want to use it on mp, whilst having the least amount of problems for the staff, again suggesting that it's even possible to have it on MP.


I'm not sure about restricting it to non-collision servers, but restricting it to certain parts of the map might be a good idea, imo.

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9 hours ago, [GER] Lasse said:

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Yes... imagine Special cargo on CD roads railway...

That would be the end of TMP.

man.... you cant take those trailers to C-D road..... this kind of trailers has their own routes!!! ... YOU CANT TAKE THEM ELSE  WERE!!! ;)

the trailers routes are:

DORTMUND - HANNOVER

NANTES - CIVAUX

GLASGOW - ABERDEEN

BRUSSEL - AMSTERDAM

and much more routes...... you cant deviate from their routes!!!! AND THIS RULE should be implemented in MP !!!

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1 hour ago, [GER] Lasse said:

Yes I know that @boieru'...

read the messages before... 

i read all the earlier messages dude <_< ..thats why i say you cant drive a SPECIAL TRANSPORT on C-D road..... but i have no idea why you quoted me!!! ......dăăăăă!!!!

i just say the SPECIAL TRANSPORT cant be drived on C-D road, because there's no route for any SPECIAL TRANSPORT CARGO on that road!!!

i post my opinion about this SPECIAL TRANSPORT DLC -_- ......

Edited by boieru'

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my friend borrowed me his account, i went to köln to check out ST trailer, it said invalid accessory detected nettrailer bla bla bla just kicked me hope that tmp team will be able to make this ST dlc into multiplayer... till then im goin for some promods and ST dlc 

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