Dudeface Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Suggestion Name: Road Rule Penalties Suggestion Description: Make crossing double white lines an offence with the penalty of a warning, with three warnings in 6 months leading to a 1-week ban and then a 1-month ban, 6-month ban and so on. Also overtaking on the inside on a single lane road have similar penalties, make overtaking in traffic jams have the penalties system too allow speeding (But only to stop people from sulking about it) and have it on all servers. Any example images: no. Why should it be added?: To reduce crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aestrial Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Moved to Open for Discussion, since format has been followed. Aestrial | Former Game and Community Manager Are you banned? - Report a player - Help - Global rules - Staff recruitment - Complaints/feedback No existe gran talento sin gran voluntad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfmpillow Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 -1 This shouldn't be a thing. Admins are already very busy and with the amount of people doing this on a day, they would only get more busy. tfmpillow | Retired Team Member Rules | Recruitment | Support | Feedback | Meet the Team | Guides | Suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sko0923 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I think this is a good idea. While there is the minimap to help out, you really shouldn't be overtaking on sharp corners because I find guys who do often drift into my lane or flip over. Besides, there is a dashed line on most places of country roads, only not on sharp turns. I agree with the idea about overtaking on inside (called undertaking, btw) too. Ruins simulation, dangerous if someone wants to pull over, and definetely doesn't help if there is a traffic jam already. Regards, sko0923. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instulent Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It would be near impossible to police these policies. Admins have enough on their plate as it is, let alone going over every minor error someone makes with a fine tooth comb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeface Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just get more admins, I'm sure there's a bunch of people trying to become admins, just get more. Quote I agree with the idea about overtaking on inside (called undertaking, btw) I referred to it as overtaking on the inside on a single lane road to avoid confusion with dual carriageway undertaking, which should not be banned because of it not being that dangerous and it would also lead to people sulking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cowie Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 @Shadowgaming(2) The problem is administrator permissions cant just be given to anyone wanting them. They mussed be well know around the community and gain trust with the community. They also mussed start as Support, Moderator, Media before they get promoted to admin. ccowie25, TFM Presenter, -1 Admins are busy at it is. They will not park at each intersection making sure people stop at stop signs and so on. So for me, its another -1. ccowie25, TFM Presenter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie_Trucker87 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 -1 Admins already kick or ban for useless/reckless traffic when they see it, cant be everywhere at once, thats why you report if its report worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeface Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just because it will be hard to enforce, doesn't mean there shouldn't be rules against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucking French Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Hello , I find this a big one because the Administrators already have enough work like that and to add them would be complicated. Cdt Esteban Cordialement, Trucking French Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 This is simple we simple don't have time to do that, you guys don't even know the ammount of work being an IGA can be between checking the web-reports, dealing with ban appeals, going the more you can in-game. We already have to much work without adding these useless things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Instead of restricting it to this admins just need to be less lenient with their bans. The fact that people are being banned for a few days for incidents which are clearly purposeful the majority of the time is something that I truly hate. If people want to purposely break rules they need to be removed sooner than later. 1 Steam | TruckersMP Profile | SteamRep | Twitch Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Pingu_ Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 -1 personally i disagree with this as the current system in place is fine, and if anyone causing a crash by overtaking on double white lines just rec and put on the website and they will be banned for dangerous driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucking French Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hello, It is a game, we will not look at each person otherwise we would never finish and the Admin could never play Sincerely, Esteban 1 Cordialement, Trucking French Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.StεvƐ. Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 -1 there are already plenty of rules on overtaking and reckless driving, plus admins are already taxed enough with all the trolls and stupid people who can't understand how intersections work. On 09/09/2017 at 2:44 AM, Shadowgaming(2) said: Just get more admins, I'm sure there's a bunch of people trying to become admins, just get more. I referred to it as overtaking on the inside on a single lane road to avoid confusion with dual carriageway undertaking, which should not be banned because of it not being that dangerous and it would also lead to people sulking about it. It's not that simple, if you let anyone be an instant admin, who's to say they're not a troll and thus ban every player they see indefinitely? Who's to say the person doesn't understand the situation shown and so makes the wrong judgement call? To be an admin, you need to be trusted, you need to prove that you are able to react to a situation, analyse it and make a evident decision, that's thing not every random player can do in an instant. Also, yes, while overtaking on a solid or double solid line is illegal as the road could be cambered, the turn could be blind or the brow of the hill could be obscuring traffic ahead, this is a game, as long as no one makes contact or completely hinders other people's progress, then let them be, sometimes it can be an overtake for a reason, such as lag, desync or being trolled. On 09/09/2017 at 6:45 AM, Shadowgaming(2) said: Just because it will be hard to enforce, doesn't mean there shouldn't be rules against it. That's like saying "oh let's add a rule that you can't enter a fuel station from the wrong side, mandatory admin action, that's simple right?" Wrong, do you know how many fuel stations there are ingame? You would need double that amount of admins for a rotatable schedule, same goes for overtaking on solid lines, how can you police millions of miles of road? It's impossible, you'd need a admin team the same size as the map to get anywhere close, so policing it is extremely hard, it's not a case of, oh there's only a few no overtaking zones, fair enough, there's literally thousands on the roads in BOTH games, so it's not as simple as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeface Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Ever heard of recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.StεvƐ. Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 12 hours ago, Shadowgaming(2) said: Ever heard of recording? What about recording? Until we have legit dashcam and telemetry data that can show speed and throttle position of other players, there's no point trying to enforce small unwanted rules, who's to say that someone's trying to overtake a slower driver who then decides to speed up and leave someone hanging on the wrong side? In in my opinion, there's far more serious offences that practically get overlooked, I mean, so what if someone's passing on a double line, in my opinion, so long as they don't drive recklessly, I.e at high speed and not care about checking for traffic, let people pass whenever, especially if its desync anyway, if an accident occurs, well then it's dealt with through normal rules, there's no need for ultra specific rules like this, especially when the map isn't a 1:1 scale so passing zones that might last a couple of miles IRL last about 200m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBARU DF Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 -1 Until then, the managers have too much work. This will not be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowlori Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Although I generally agree with meaningful rules I think this would be an overkill. Bear in mind that we are on an MP server, where there is no AI traffic. Now just by looking at the nav computer you could easily overtake a heavy hauler when it´s safe despite of double lines. Besides we already have rules for that: Incorrect way, inapproriate overtaking, ramming, reckless driving including speeding all apply if you cross double lines without caring for traffic. One rule that especially inludes double lines is this one: "While Driving in TruckersMP, users are required to follow the traffic laws of the respective country." In my opinion most of the players don´t mind if someone crosses double lines as long as they do it in a safe manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davnoz Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 THe idea of having an automated system to check if you have crossed a double white line would be something very weird and complex to add from what I know. There would also be issues of people complaining about false bans and that it is unfair. The way TMP deal with bans and history is effective in y eyes and I don't think we need to enforce even more rules. Even though its a simulator it is also still a game. -1 iHobbit | Report Moderator "You are entitled to food, clothing, shelter and medical attention. Anything else that you get is a privilege" ~USP Alcatraz < Game Reports <> Ban Appeals <> Support <> Feedback <> Recruitment <> Game Rules > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Producer Smoky Posted October 8, 2019 Game Producer Share Posted October 8, 2019 Rejected, we can not provide the resources to get this checked all over the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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