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Suggestion Name:  Add a auto kick zone on the D-C road for cars

 

Suggestion Description: I believe that there should be a car auto kicker on the D-C road, this is because, it is already to busy and there is no reason for the cars to be traveling down that road.  

Reason 1: 2.18 Reckless Driving - Overtaking into oncoming traffic making them swerve and cause damage to there load. 

Reason 2: 2.21 Freeroam and Non Collision Servers, Inappropriate Overtaking, 2.12 Useless traffic in excessively high population areas, 5 Overtaking -  All of them rules are broken! In my eyes I never see an admin policing that area! 

 

Why should it be added?: This should be add to reduce the population on the C-D road. I know there is the point of 'well you just shouldn't travel down the road' however, its a rule!! 2.12 Useless traffic in excessively high population areas and it isn't policed! It will stop so many collisions! I often drive my car but I never going in high populated areas. I personally don't think it is very fair, its and rule and needs to be policed and it isn't. I understand that there might not be many admins but surly there some always be at least 2 patrolling the D-C road.

 

 

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-1 just because there are some people in the community who like to drive recklessly or overtake n inappropriate areas, that does not warrant instant kicking anyone who drives a car on the C-D road, that's like auto kicking anyone who drives a Scania or Volvo because they're used a lot by trolls.

 

This is the whole reason why we have a report system, if a player is driving recklessly or doing something that is against the rules, then they are dealt with AS AN INDIVIDUAL, as it should be. Putting everyone under the same bracket as trolls or idiots isn't fair, there's plenty of us who enjoy taking a car out for a run, just the scout out traffic conditions or for a change of scenery or even to RP driving to work.

 

Also, in my opinion, the whole "useless traffic" rule needs a revamp because it's too widely thrown around in situations like this, just because a player isn't in a 750bhp Volvo hauling 20T of cargo going to an exact destination at the other end of the road, doesn't make them useless traffic, the cause troublemakers are those who are impatient, who troll, who drive like jack holes and those who's soul purpose is to be annoying. I've personally bobtailed or taken a car down the C-D road before grabbing a load, mostly to see just how bad traffic is before plotting my route back, whether to avoid the area or commit. 

 

Not only that but is it fair on those who want to enjoy themselves and take a break from driving a HGV all day and who wants to drive where there's actually traffic around, is it fair to auto kick them for driving on the road, not breaking any rules, is it fair to ask admins, who are volunteers btw, to constantly police one area of road for cars that may or may not be driving dangerously, whereas those same admins could be banning and kicking the real criminals who are blocking, racing, ramming, overtaking dangerously, recklessly driving, trolling, excessively speeding etc etc, all the real reasons people report other players for anyway. 

 

I would rather like like to see a auto kick for anyone who drives a truck and who overtakes dangerously on the C-D road because I've seen more accidents happen because of impatient TRUCK drivers, than I have seen cars causing wrecks, most of the time cars wreck themselves out of the way anyway.

 

also, just because you personally avoid highly populated areas, doesn't mean everyone else should follow suite, as long as people are not breaking the important rules, they should be left alone, the only time they should be dealt with is when they break those rules.

 

Also FYI @YenamCraftFTW just because don't actively see an admin policing an area, doesn't mean they aren't watching from Dev cam, also the likely reason the useless traffic rule isn't used a lot is because it's a grey area rule, one persons idea of useless traffic is different to others, e.g. your idea is that any car on the C-D road is deemed useless traffic, whereas for me, any bobtailing truck or reoccurring cars/trucks that pass through the road multiple times an hour is deemed useless because it's obvious that they are passing the busy area and the flipping a u-turn to go through again. So really, it's a rule that is t really applied, especially when there's more important rules like reckless driving and overtaking traffic queues etc that are more important/dangerous/punishable.

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-1 Removing the cars is not going to solve anything, trolls can easily use their trucks to continue trolling. Vehicles are not the problem, but the driver is the problem.

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As mentioned above, removing Skoda's will do nothing but waste the time that was put into developing them. Trolls will simply move till they have run out of areas on their chess board. 

 

To deal with the problem at heart, the people driving them need to be targeted - the ones who make the decisions on what they are doing. Unless the cars are autonomous ^_^ 

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If you implement this system all players would be automatically kicked regardless of whether he drove reckless or not.

And what do you do if an convoy with oilot cars drives through this area? Should the pilot cars just log off or leave the convoy alone? Especially in this areas pilot cars are very usefull for a convoy.

 

As megadeath also replied:

On 27.8.2017 at 1:51 AM, megadethsteve666 said:

This is the whole reason why we have a report system

Just because some cars are driving reckless and doing some crashes due to their high speed it is not appropriate to kick all. That's the situation all truckers have to face in RL.

 

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-1 trying to cure the headache by chopping off the head. This is just going to punish those who drive cars as intended, while those who intend to be rammers and trolls will just keep doing so in a truck instead.  

 

In my opinion, we need harsher punishment and to give less chances to rejoin TruckersMP for trolls who choose to ram and ruin others' gameplay, regardless of the vehicle they choose to do it in. Right now I think admins are too forgiving of people who were only on the servers to be immature trolls. They have massive rapsheets of nothing but the same offenses and bans but they are back on the servers days later. It's not ok, and they won't change their behavior, so why are they given so many opportunities to keep committing the same offenses? 

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5 hours ago, Zomb Lee said:

-1 trying to cure the headache by chopping off the head. This is just going to punish those who drive cars as intended, while those who intend to be rammers and trolls will just keep doing so in a truck instead.  

 

In my opinion, we need harsher punishment and to give less chances to rejoin TruckersMP for trolls who choose to ram and ruin others' gameplay, regardless of the vehicle they choose to do it in. Right now I think admins are too forgiving of people who were only on the servers to be immature trolls. They have massive rapsheets of nothing but the same offenses and bans but they are back on the servers days later. It's not ok, and they won't change their behavior, so why are they given so many opportunities to keep committing the same offenses? 

Exactly, I mean we had trolls back when TMP was just ETS2MP and those trolls drove trucks, Rotterdam and EP would be locked down almost once a week at least with trolls.

 

So in respect, here's what would happen, cars are removed because trolls use them, so then those trolls that normally drive small cars, will get back into big heavy trucks, so then what do we do then? Ban all trucks? Then what's the point of MP then? 

 

Also, harsher punishments will not work, all that'll do is penalise those who make genuine mistakes, yet the trolls will know and will find the loopholes in the system to get away with it, so really, the only thing tighter rules will do is remove more good players from the servers and will end up turning EU2 into a troll lobby because as more trolls use loopholes, rules have to be made stronger to count, meaning more innocent people will get punished for minor accidents, it's just a snowball effect.

 

Really, the only counter to trolls is to keep banning them and then add an IP blocker stopping specific IPs from logging in or something of that nature because trolls will always just setup new burn accounts to do their work through, if you have a disk version of both games, you can set up Steam accounts and just link the game to the account without issue, it's how trolls can use multiple accounts without buying the game multiple times.

 

Sometimes, it's hard to judge whether an incident is just an accident, either desync or just a misjudgement or if it's a deliberate act, so admins don't want to ban someone permenantly and they actually didn't do it on purpose, hence why they're hesitant to intervene unless that person reports it with evidence, which a lot of people don't do.

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-1

 

On ‎2017‎-‎09‎-‎03 at 8:14 AM, [???????] DT ML [RU] said:

You need to understand that this does not solve the problem with those who do not comply with the rules and does not behave correctly.

The same trolls will change with Scout on a normal truck without a trailer.

 

On ‎2017‎-‎08‎-‎28 at 5:44 AM, TheDriverSeatBelt said:

-1 Removing the cars is not going to solve anything, trolls can easily use their trucks to continue trolling. Vehicles are not the problem, but the driver is the problem.

 

On ‎2017‎-‎08‎-‎26 at 7:51 PM, megadethsteve666 said:

This is the whole reason why we have a report system, if a player is driving recklessly or doing something that is against the rules, then they are dealt with AS AN INDIVIDUAL, as it should be. Putting everyone under the same bracket as trolls or idiots isn't fair, there's plenty of us who enjoy taking a car out for a run, just the scout out traffic conditions or for a change of scenery or even to RP driving to work.

 

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- 1 because cars are not problem in TruckersMP. Problem is a person who drives this car, for example i know lots of good drivers which are using cars only because they are tired of trucks and want to relax and etc. I'm going there with car and then reporting players who are going out of in-game rules. If you are tired of idiots on the road, go on EU3 or dont go on C-D road. As you said in post "2.12 Useless traffic in excessively high population areas", if you go there just because there are a lot of players you are useless traffic too, but if you there because of your truck, you can go through another roads. I hope you understand my position ;) 

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§2.12 Useless traffic in excessively high population areas

Useless traffic in excessively high population areas such as Europoort, Rotterdam or the Calais to Duisburg road. Driving without reason to and from or anything similar. If you are in the area of Europoort, you are expected to use the port or you are running the risk of punishment.

 

 

I partially agree to @megadethsteve666.


If useless traffic is defined as "driving without a reason to and from or anything similar", it still remains an open question what a valid reason would be.

One might assume that all passengers vehicles in the defined areas that are not used as convoy escort vehicles are regarded as useless traffic.

 

Unless the rules are clearly defined, passenger vehicles shall be allowed without restrictions.

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Joao Rodrigues said:

 

I partially agree to @megadethsteve666.


If useless traffic is defined as "driving without a reason to and from or anything similar", it still remains an open question what a valid reason would be.

One might assume that all passengers vehicles in the defined areas that are not used as convoy escort vehicles are regarded as useless traffic.

 

Unless the rules are clearly defined, passenger vehicles shall be allowed without restrictions.

 

 

 

 

It’s not about defining current rules, it’s making the rules more apparent based upon what vehicle you are driving, in a car? You’ll have car specific rules. In a truck? Same applies, it makes it easier on admins to know what exactly to look for in a report and on the roads and stops the excuses and the exploitation of black holes in the rule book. 

 

It it should be simple, if you’re driving a truck and trailer through a populated area, as long as you are seen only once within x time, that’s fine, if you’re in a truck with no trailer, best to avoid the area, if you’re in a car, same applies as a truck with trailer except elapsed time is longer.

 

thats fair for all (let’s face it a truck bobtailing around is asking for trouble in populated areas).

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