Cyanide_snubben Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Suggestion Name: IP bans instead of the steam IDSuggestion Description: Ban the IP instead of the steam ID Any example images: Sorry, no picturesWhy should it be added?: As you might know there are many people getting banned daily from the MP server but only by their ID which will make these people just make an new account and buy the game again. Now I suggest that you developers do so the admins can ban the player by his/hers IP address instead of just the steam ID. This will result that the player NEVER can return to any of the server as the IP is in the ban list. So they will not be able to join again if they just makes an new profile. Thanks in advance for reading this suggestion and I hope this will be implemented into the system. Regards World of Trucks proflie
Tandre Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 No i dont think thats good! I mean its just good if people suport scssoft by buying a new copy. And how many trolls is spending 19 euro on trolling? Come on ;D
(AoF) BazzFlo84 (GER) Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 The Problem here would be that most ISPs change the IP of the User every 24Hours, almost none has a static IP as they're pretty Expensive so won't make Sense... 1 "Art of Freighters" --- If it fits into / onto the Trailer I will haul it, no matter where and which Profit ---
[ST-LH] Calbert Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Like he said above, IP changes all the time, so would be pointless to add because then people would easily get around it. Don't think a troll will go through the hassle of making a new steam, just to buy the game again, to be an arse once more. Stobart Trucking Long Haul Division. https://www.stvtc.co.uk/ https://www.twitch.tv/calbert
Dave Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I'd say it'd be more useful and productive than just giving a people a slap on the wrist, and honestly that does absolutely nothing because they just come back to eventually continue whatever they were doing. I have a dynamic IP and from what I recall of sites and such that I've been banned from the fact I have a dynamic done nothing in circumventing it unless I masked the IP through other means. Which brings me to another point, IP bans get rid of the majority who don't know how to circumvent them, those that can usually get bored or keep returning - which might make it seem like IP bans are a waste of time but it would reduce repeat offences without a doubt.
Spirit Omega Wolf Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 take this for example.SAME computer = SAME IP! no?2 Steam Accounts with both paid for ETS2 and installed1 of them get benned through IP address and so does the other
S2020 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Could be bad for Chinese players. They need to use VPN's to login and they probably share some IP's to overcome government firewall. Beside on most ISP's changing IP's is like 10 seconds with a simple modem reset. IP banning is never a solution. "Trucking is like love... Only newbies go fast and end up early "
Steven Foster Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I have to agree with what others have said above, most if not all IP addresses change ona regular badis which would then give them access to the mp servers. If you want people to stayed banned until they make an appeal, it's better to just stick to banning thwme steam accounts Cheers, AussieLAD
Happy Rogue Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Also why would someone buy the game again when you could simply gift your game from your old banned account to your new account on steam?
Alec Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 -It is also possible to change your IP address. Sometimes, there's just no way to avoid trolls... My Plates:
FernandoCR [ESP] Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 And with dynamic IP addresses, this "system" could lead to a person been banned the first time he tries to play just because when connecting, the ISP gave his computer an IP that was previously on the ban list... And the person who received the ban would be able to connect with a new and different IP address, so I don't think this a good method to avoid trolls. I'd have no problems, my IP is fixed, but my brother, for instance, could see himself banned for something his neighbour did the day before...
Crazyforiphone Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 What about serial key ? A key can onky be activated once. How could banning a serial key do anything more than just straight out banning the steam id?
Flashylights Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 A key can onky be activated once. How could banning a serial key do anything more than just straight out banning the steam id?I saw this too on mta sa and its just a suggestion And steam acounts are Free but buying pc or laptop is not free
Crazyforiphone Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 I saw this too on mta sa and its just a suggestion And steam acounts are Free but buying pc or laptop is not free are you talking about banning by mac address?
Dave Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 And with dynamic IP addresses, this "system" could lead to a person been banned the first time he tries to play just because when connecting, the ISP gave his computer an IP that was previously on the ban list... And the person who received the ban would be able to connect with a new and different IP address, so I don't think this a good method to avoid trolls. I'd have no problems, my IP is fixed, but my brother, for instance, could see himself banned for something his neighbour did the day before... I'd dare to say the chances of having the same IP that someone got IP banned is very unlikely. As it stands now there's no deterrent to convince a person not to break rules because with this current system all it is, is luck of the draw in regards to what you're punished with; not to mention the only times I see people being permanently banned is for speedhacks - why not repeat offences? Possibly elaborating on the punishment system (there's nothing to gain from knowing how it works) might help the situation and answer some doubt to those of us who believe it's, to some degree, random.
Prime Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 If you really want to make sure you want a person's computer can't log in you have to ban the mac-address (physical address of your network card) of that computer. Buth then they just switch to another one and problem solved for them. There is really no practical way to make sure a troll can't ever connect again, they will always find a workaround if they want to. Regards Prime Service & Data Analyst
S2020 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 I do not think Steam gives out serial keys of other games to logins. "Trucking is like love... Only newbies go fast and end up early "
Gorkal1ty Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 As said above, no one has static IPs nowadays. My hopes for this stuff goes into that "beta-phase" where the player-account and economy system will be implemented and more strict enough to avoid so much trolls, even if there will be always tons of them. I hope that beta will come someday in the near future.
Happy Rogue Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 What about serial key ? I won't use or download a mod that takes or stores my game key that's a no no
Flashylights Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I won't use or download a mod that takes or stores my game key that's a no no It was Mac adres ban but they will just find a way to unban and change name
legress Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 A lot of players who have a dynamic IP. Change IP can be with to restart the computer. You can ban one bad guy, he rebooting own computer and IP is changed. And will be banned a completely different person, who have that(banned) IP.
RootKiller Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 IP bans were good few years ago. We are banning steamid so you have to buy another copy to play again - it's not a problem for us - it's just a problem for wallet of banned players .Closed. ...
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