D-O-M Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Suggestion Name: Automatized ban system Suggestion Description: Adding automatized ban procedure on top of more factors of player's behaviour on a road Any example images: Why should it be added?: Because troll factor is huge with some kids I was about to suggest something like this, you might force everyone to scroll through rules in his language before he can register, or force him watching the video But then I've realised what's the right path - making some kind of programme which gonna ban troll automatically for crashing into others in certain fashion, certain number of times or for certain portion of time, and add some reputation to that, some numbered factor on what mischiefs has person done in past, which combined with previousely named factors would make ban happen faster or make it longer . If I want to drive normally and deliver.... I will go anywhere, I i want to get stuck in traffic and have some fun being part of traffic jam, but polite and responsible part of traffic jam for sure, i ll go west from Duisburg and when i do that on full server, every time someoe prevents me from achieving by overtaking me and blocking me or crashing into standing trucks in a speed of ligth which sometimes even gonna make trucks glitched and fly even if you are tenth from the back. Two days ago I've seen police car for a first time btw, on one of crossings behind Duisburg, maybe he achieved to do something for a short period of time, but that's not enough. I am getting sick of what's happening in the game. I would be banning these trollkids with no sense for fairplay for atleast 6 months, they gonna forget about the game and never come back or think about how they want to behave next time. There never will be enough admins to make the gaming as clean as possible. I think the best would be writing some procedure as said already, so the server bans you for being a troll on top of combination of factors. Oh ye, and I am also getting crashed by people who are dumb or ignorant enough to not park next to the road for a "connecting to server" period of time and they spawn exactly in the point where you are just driving through at that moment. You will never make it with people, you have to go AI.
D-O-M Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Posted July 14, 2017 Its nice that I am coming with Idea never of you got and you gonna praise me for it but first what you do is reminding me about format, so I am sorry for not keeping the format and edited the post, maybe we shall move it to ETS2MP part of suggestions category because i said word Duisburg in a text I am sorry, i am pissed off from these trolls who have no sense for how to behave in the game and first what I hear is keep the format lol. 1
RapidFellow Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 I just gave you a hint. You don't have to do what I say, but then a moderator will ask you to do so. Second thing: Search before posting: https://forum.truckersmp.com/index.php?/announcement/14-search-before-posting/ Third thing: -1 There will be two possibilities: Either too many players will be banned or too few.
naxcel ( PL ) ( GB ) Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 I think it will be hard or even immpossible to write program that recognize whether you've hit somebody or somebody hit you. I think it should be like separate AI for each vehicle or some kind of analyzing script but i guess that kind of feature wouldn't be accurate.
Aestrial Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 Both posts relating to format have been hidden. If you have nothing to say about the suggestion itself, then you should not be posting here. The post has been edited to include the suggestion format, we thank the topic creator for that. @HamitCanKilic / 24] @DrEGZo please take note of this. 3 Aestrial | Former Game and Community Manager Are you banned? - Report a player - Help - Global rules - Staff recruitment - Complaints/feedback No existe gran talento sin gran voluntad.
JonathanGJM Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 -1 Someone could accidentally rear-end some muliple times in a row and would get banned for it. That is not fair. That is like reporting a person for every little thing he/she does wrong. Also, a system like this is not that easy to make. Getting kicked if you have gotten the same report for a couple of times in a row for a short period of time, is a better system, but still, a group of trolls could report you while doing nothing wrong. The best system IMO is the report system in the game now. If a troll blocks or rams you, just report him.
D-O-M Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Posted July 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, JonathanGJM said: -1 Someone could accidentally rear-end some muliple times in a row and would get banned for it. That is not fair. That is like reporting a person for every little thing he/she does wrong. Also, a system like this is not that easy to make. Getting kicked if you have gotten the same report for a couple of times in a row for a short period of time, is a better system, but still, a group of trolls could report you while doing nothing wrong. The best system IMO is the report system in the game now. If a troll blocks or rams you, just report him. Your logic is so Wong it couldnt be more wrong. I doubt you've read what I've posted, you are mixing report system with automatic ban system. If I were about to report every miscreant I wouldn't be even driving, because I would be reporting all the day. You talk about people who rear end someone accidentally - people shall watch the map every 5 seconds and expect a traffic jam or accident infront and go slower to be able to stop. Some kids, especially turkish ones can't do that because they are either ignorants or their IQ is too low. Again, youre mixing report system with what I am proposing, because plainly there would be no troll reports when it's automated. I used to play GTA SA MP and I am used to forums being filled with blabepring chit chatters but hey, could you atleast focus on what youre reacting to and use the brain.
JonathanGJM Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 nah I get you, but this would still generate unfair bans. I'm using the report system as a reference. Also, please be more polite 1
[ S.PLH ] Warrior Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 how would this automatic system even works ? does it collect any evidence ? i will doubt that so how must we validate that the ban was correct without proper evidence ? this is just bringing more work then less work for us. 1
Interstate Nomad Posted July 14, 2017 Report Posted July 14, 2017 @D-O-M, unfortunately, your description of how "some kind of programme" is gonna detect and ban users for trolling is rather vague. Could you explain in more detail how you imagine that would work? 3 hours ago, D-O-M said: Some kids, especially turkish ones can't do that because they are either ignorants or their IQ is too low. It borders on racism to accuse someone of ignorance or a low IQ because of his/ her nationality. So much about being ignorant. 1
D-O-M Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Posted July 24, 2017 well developers might be able to figure out details
RootKiller Posted July 24, 2017 Report Posted July 24, 2017 It is not doable in sensible time frame. There are hundreds of corner cases you need to take care of, any kind of the automatic system will never be as fair as human admin with proper demo tools (which is already there). Also one of the huge problems is network lag - player A says he crashed player B but player B did not record that due to lag, who to trust? Implement collision on server - no way too much HW usage and it's very probable it still will not work well and cause a lot of "i did not even touched him" situations. The only one way you can improve reports is to enable ghost mode for player the is being reported a lot of times and his client reported N collisions in some time frame. I'm aganist this suggestion. 1 ...
HumaneWolf Posted July 24, 2017 Report Posted July 24, 2017 If this was anywhere near as easy as it may sound, we would have had it already. It isn't. Also, police cars are no indication of the actual work done by admins, since they almost always use the developer camera when doing their duties in game. This means you won't even see it if they're nearby doing work. HumaneWolf - Website - Twitter - GitHub Ex-Developer
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