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Gaming age groups debate...

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Right before I start this please make this a clean debate and no personal attacks or personal information this is just pure gaming prefrences debate thats all please respect this thanks......

 

Whats your view's about gaming with people at any age.... for example a lot more recently than anything I have been personally asked to game with certain age groups....and I feel old because I dont find it appropriate for me to join and be apart of it for sole reason... Im older and wiser and I know about the internet and what can happen.... to protect both age group I tend to stay away... but these days its harder to know unless they tell you the information.... now the age groups I am speaking about is between 12-15 year old....

 

I am 34 yrs old and I personally dont find it appropriate to game with this age group for the simple reason is I know how I would feel as a parent if my child was gaming with a person of this age.... but then you get the said "age group" constantly asking and when you give them information and a reason why not to game with each other they do to some degree put a valid point across but my feeling is its not appropriate and I tend to stay clear....  now dont get me wrong I do find alot of gamers in the "said" age group to be mature and fun to game with but as for adding to steam and friends lists and so forth I kinda have a weird feeling on that area..... am I over reacting or am I being a bit too much protective.....

 

Whats your thoughts on this debate let me know what you honestly think....

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It all depends on whether the (young) player acts mature enough to play with older people. After all, it is only a game and wont cause any harm as nothing personal is going on (maybe just using their mic). It is understandable that most kids under 17 are immature, some around ~15+ may be mature enough to play with older people though. Both age groups are interested in the same game which is all that matters. As an 18 year old myself I do like to play with older people as I can not be bothered with immature kids.

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I think there's nothing wrong with playing with people who are not in your age group, I play with many people older and younger than me and they think I  think that it's fine!

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I have actively been with people both quite alot older than me and others who are younger. From my perspective, age plays just a minor part in how the person behaves. It's much more into each individual, as everyone are different. I don't think two different people (in terms of age) playing together is directly a bad or "creepy" thing if they know each other. I think it's just a nice way to interact with various other people without any moral restrictions. And from my experience, I've learnt alot from being with people not necessarily at my age.

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Its not the actual gaming side I am conserned about its adding each other to like of services such as discord / steam / any thing similar if you catch my drift !

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I totally understand what you say, it doesn't feel right adding people younger than 16 on other things.  I see nothing wrong in driving with anyone because that's just like walking down the street.  But then some younger people are very mature and some older people are very immature so it balances either way.  This is a great community and should stay as such

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I think it's semi-weird if a 30y/o+ is talking with a 15< y/o on voicechat. Steam or any chat - alright, but voice is too personal in my opinion. Some people share phone numbers, that I find totally unacceptable and innapriopiate.

 

Myself I am 17, I often refrain from using voice like Discord because it just doesn't really feel appriopiate to me. Behaviour between people who are 10 years older than me is very different - and I'm not comfortable with that.

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Totally agree @Rekoil_ this is exactly what I am talking about but when I put my point across at times I get the impression when I explain this to certain people they dont understand how weird it feels for me.... AI know im more older than the general average user on TMP and I see no issue convoy or tagging alot with a 12 yr old but when it becomes adding on steam or discord networks or voice as such it creeps me out a bit.,....

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I completely echo yourself, and Rekoil on this one. Personally, I'm 19 y/o, but would not really feel comfortable talking within voice-chat to people I one, don't know, for two, who I know are decades older than me, and three, people who I have never had any affiliation with myself or know me at all.

 

I rarely use voice-chat unless I know the people I'm talking too well enough to know what their like. Voice chat has never been appealing to me anyway, so would certainly not share a Discord chat with people of which I do not know.

 

Voice chat is something I use when playing with IRL friends. Actually playing a game, talking in chat, I'm fine with. But with voice-chat, and with people who are decades older/younger, not appropriate in my eyes at least.

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Sharing phone numbers, big no for me. I am 15 personally, I consider myself mature than most other people in my age group. I tend to see most people (including my personal friends from school who also have the game) just want to speed, troll, and mess around with the game, while me, I tend to enjoy the actual driving aspect of it and not bothering anybody. However back to the topic, it all depends what game you are playing. If I am on CSGO for example and I am on a team with say someone 25, or even 30+, I don't mind talking to them on voice chat in game and planning out a strategy to defeat the opponent. Add me on Steam if you wish, but I will most likely never talk to you after that one match. Regularly playing with people double my age however, talking to them, etc is out of my comfort zone IMO. An exception to this is if I am in a VTC or another group where there are people my age and people of other ages, I'm generally fine with that as I am not the only young guy there. Hopefully you're catching my drift. 

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I'm 20 now, and I've gamed on PC, Online since about 12. I've got friends on Steam ranging from 10 all the way to mid 40's. 

 

When I was 12 playing on PC, I always hated having a squeaky voice, feeling so young and immature compared to all the older ones playing. It aspired me to be more mature like they were, to act more grown and up that definitely had a positive influence on my maturity at that age. Being in school, all my mates were immature and reckless so interacting online, and despite even being indirectly definitely prompted me to act more grown up. I never ran into any issues of personal details, I had a lot of people add me, and I added a lot of people on Steam usually because I played on the same server, there was a great sense of community back then, everyone was friendly and polite to each other, ones who weren't got punished accordingly. 

 

Also being on Steam exposed me to Scams, Phishing and other malicious online theft. I had my Steam account "hacked" through phishing when I was about 13. I was young, and didn't know otherwise, but thankfully I was to young to even afford anything worth stealing and I got my account recovered in no time. That effectively worked as a mental vaccine, and I've been much more careful to virus spreading, phishing and scams ever since. I've always witnessed others getting scammed through warnings on forums. It's made me a lot more careful online, and that's a positive to me. I still see people my age, older, younger, even my parents age getting fooled by phishing, something I know have a sixth sense on. 

 

Online community is about bringing people together, of all ages, of all ethnicity. Generally speaking, the younger demographic do annoy me a little, they seem to thing older people are made of money and don't have any expenses like they do so they'll befriend me and shortly after start begging for games and DLC, but other than that, it's good. I've got younger friends on Steam (14/15) who I play many games with regularly, I've got older friends who I also socialise with. 

It goes without saying, this is optional, you don't NEED to have a mixed social demographic, there's plenty of facilities to help you find people of your social group preferences and it's entirely up to you who you chose to interact with. 

 

Some communities I've been a part of for a long time, long enough gain enough trust and respect to add on Facebook,  create Whatsapp groups that contain personal phone numbers, and even on 3 occasions I've met personally IRL. 

In fact, I bought a computer case of a guy I met on here.. I've hung out in Bristol with people I met on TF2 nearly 4/5 years ago (met 4/5 years ago, met IRL last year). At one point (before I deleted and remade my FB account) I even had several people on here on Facebook.

 

But, I'm gonna be fair, I have witnessed my fair share of toxic moments in the community. On TF2 a few years ago a kid was playing terribly and talking on the mic with probably the highest voice I've ever heard online ingame. 

Turned about to be 8 (according to mother who had a go at the server for the following..) and players were teaching him swear words and other profanity. Placing pornographic sprays and getting him to look etc...

Youtubers have turned out to be paedophiles which speaks for itself. Another issue which isn't as bad is kids generally have shorter tempers, and are more prone to trolling online and can be led out of anger to do some pretty damaging stuff. I've heard of kids smashing the (parents ofc) monitors, keyboards, 

 

Overall, I'd personally say the Steam community as a whole was a much more friendly environment 8 years ago when I created my account. Nowadays it's so incredibly toxic and hostile, everyone's so rude, there's so many scams, malware spreaders, bots, hate speech.. 

Because I started on Steam back when it was more friendly, and I've watched it turn rotten, it's easy for me to distinguish between positive and negative people, It's something I've become fluent with. I can identify what kind of person I'm interacting with very quickly because I've done it so many times. As such, I have no problem with welcoming anyone because I know who to delete and block quite quickly. At the time of this post, I have 585 friends on Steam, and none of them have caused me any issues. 

 

But lets get more back to the point here. 

About being uncomfortable with communicating with those from different age groups. It's an understandable feeling. The way society is today is in regards to interaction with different age groups has been shaped massively by events that I'm sure the older people here will understand, but I wont go into detail with. (JS,RH....). That's had a massive impact on how we today act around other ages, it's massively impacted our schools, security, public interactions, so those habits are naturally going to reflect online. Whether or not your reason is due to this, it plays a big part in the bigger picture. Personally, I'm okay with gaming with younger people online provided they act mature enough for me to put up with. The reason for this is because we talk about the game, and the game only. I don't indulge into personal life or ask for FB's, I keep it strictly gaming and non personal topics (music etc..). I play online with older people too, because I'm an adult, and I act like one. I'm more open there, but still on non personal topics. I've had political debates, learnt a lot, listened to some interesting life stories etc.. from older gamers and it's been great. We've gotten along, had a nice gaming session and a chat in the meantime. 

 

They key thing overall here is how you handle your online safety, and I could go on for hours on this topic but this post is already big enough as it is. 

Look into how to protect your privacy and social media online, never meet anyone you don't know, never accept messages from strangers on social media, always use maximum safety when socialising. 

This is especially for younger ones as you are the targets here, do research into this, talk to your parents. 

 

But the bottom line is... for the older ones, interact with who you feel comfortable with. 

For the younger ones, preferably keep to your age group, but if expanding, then use full caution, safety and privacy. Imagine everyone you interact with online wants to hurt you. What information would you give them? Make it none. 

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I have to agree with the points made by @Miles!. Personally I don't have any problem gaming or even on in-game VOIP with people of all ages. I have never had a problem interacting with teenagers but I do maintain caution due to the ease at which parents can get very defensive over these things. Perhaps being a parent myself who gamed with my son (he lived 630 miles away from me)  and his friends when he was 12+ on World of Warcraft back in the early days of vanilla, I learnt to understand their age group better. Likewise I have gamed and talked VOIP with OAP's too without issue. Maturity is not age restricted, it's an individual trait.

 

I think the problem bores down to a stigma that society has put into peoples heads and also technology has played a big part in people's lack of social interaction outside of the internet. Like everything in life, you have to keep things on a level, take each person as you find them and be friendly, not over friendly. If you don't like a person (for whatever reason) simply block or ignore them. There is no problem having a discussion with anyone as long as you don't give or request definative personal details as not everyone is out to be your friend.

 

Remember that everything you have written or posted is available to view on the Internet, it's an easy matter to pretty much locate even those who try to remain anonymous if you know where and how to look. Criminals have exploited this for ID theft etc.

 

A tip for those who feel uncomfortable talking to older age groups, (I was like that once, many years ago before the Internet came along) make the effort. It will initially be hard but it will get easier and boost your self confidence. It will help you later in life, especially in the workplace.

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I live with 7.4 billion human beings on the same planet.

Meeting people of different ages and also gaming with them is just a logical consequence of it.

 

i enjoy the variety in this community. It is what makes it so special.

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