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Andrea Vaillant

Helpers Union for a Cleaner EU2

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Hi guys.

As you all know EU2 is full of bad players and playing in it can be frustrating. Admins can't control everything and they aren't so active.

Since they are not paid for it i don't want to accuse them. I just want to introduce my project: a non-admins union for a better EU2 server.

How will this work?

 

- You can go in free camera to record and report reckless drivers. No matters how,just go and hunt for some noobs!

-You can, after having proved to me that you are reliable,and with explicit admin's permit, try to help in jammy intersections,like the C-D one, by acting like an urban vigilant, alternately blocking with your car

each lane.

 

The more we are,the most powerful we will be.

No need to be present everyday,you can help whenever you can.

And we can do a challenge, maybe a monthly rank for the best bad drivers hunters.

Are you in? i hope so,otherwise i'll have lost 10 minutes of my life trying to involve people in something I'd like to realize.

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I sort of already do this. I park nearby the Rotterdam interchange on the C-D Road and just use free cam and fly around taking clips of people. As there was no admin around.  in the space of around 30 mins I had numerous clips where people have now been banned from them. It's maybe worth considering an official vigilante group. 

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Please note that you'll never be allowed to block traffic yourself. An admin can't and won't give you permission for that.

Driving to that road just to make reports is not allowed as you are creating useless traffic.

 

I understand your point of view, but you are breaking many rules yourself by doing this.

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please do not waste your time pretending to be an in-game admin because we have qualified staff who is capable of doing it

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I can already see this being abused without the correct leadership / guidelines, regarding your idea about "blocking roads" (That's if this suggestion even was to be accepted). TruckersMP already have in-game admins along with a whole system behind it to prevent power abuse and deal with any complications that may occur. Why add another system which will be even more harder to maintain, along with more work? 

 

"Non admin's" doing what technically is admin work, it just does not make sense. Even if you try block the road with a car what if someone does not listen and drive straight through you causing even more of a problem. The "non admin" wont have any power to kick / ban so I highly doubt the individuals who do not follow rules will listen in the first place. Note: if you suggest these "non admin's" have these kick or ban powers, you contradict your whole statement and actually mean give people IGA. 

 

You can record and report anyway via the TruckersMP report system, just do this instead. 

 

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Nobody is pretending to be in-game admin. What he's suggesting is a valid idea. It's a vigilante group that's offering to give their time to report players breaking rules. 

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Don't see the point when everyone can record and report now etc

if people wanna sit and waste there own time instead of playing the game that's up to them tbf

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Wow theirs some rather sour responses to this.. TMP boasts 1.3 Million accounts. How many of them are duplicates or actual active account? The Idea is a vigilante group who offer support to TMP. I disagree with allowing to have permission to use cars to block traffic or having any extra privileges. But I like the idea of people being allowed to report players breaking the rules while admins are not around. 

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@DJ Jefferz HMFL TFM FME, actually, it would be exactly that what @EnLight said.


There would be people who do, in fact, Admin work. Of course, this excludes the ability to kick people but when they are sitting there (as a matter of fact, idle) in order to report other people, it would not just increase the amount of reports but it would also add more traffic to already highly populated areas.

Once those people are established, they would want special rights or in-game advantages and, eventually, we would have little deputy sheriffs who are trying to help but who haven't got the knowledge of what is kickable and what is bannable, hence why they report everything they see which additionally increases the number of useless reports.

 

Even I have to admit that I am entirely useless and worth nothing referring to the game itself.

 

However, this:

1 minute ago, DJ Jefferz HMFL TFM FME said:

But I like the idea of people being allowed to report players breaking the rules while admins are not around. 

actually is already implemented as of now.

 

Everybody can and most likely will report a player who rammed or overtook dangerously or caused mayhem. If you had people who reported everything, they would also report minor accidents. Some people do not care about an accident if it did not damage their truck too much. But with those people, an innocent player would be banned for a little mistake because he did not pay attention.

 

This is what I think, hence why I would not like to have that.

 

 

Kind regards,

Anriandor

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Exactly people can report everything but they don't, some can not be bothered to report things. Allowing others to constantly break the rules over and over without repercussion. People don't report as it takes to long for the report to be processed. I have seen some of my reports take up to 2 weeks to be completed. Which is where this idea comes in of some kind of vigilante group.

I'm tired of nothing being done on roads like C-D. I'm sure there's plans being made but that's all we keep being told. There's not enough action. Which is why people are wanting to set groups like this up. In regards to traffic obviously its stupid parking right in the middle of it. Parking nearby where your not an obstruction is a much smarter idea.

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Oh for god's sake .

i think we all need to man up a bit and accept that accidents happen only report real pain in the a** gamer trolls and the way over the top speeders and deal with the fall out of accidents like adults with a apology and a bit of calm . The last thing we need is vigilantly mobs roaming around . and by only reporting real bad players the admin mite have a chance to get on top of things rather than getting reports of minor stuff ! 

Which a lot I suspect are pointless grudge reports . 

Errr........ Rant over sry 

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36 minutes ago, MushroomLTU said:

So, after we prove you, that we are good enough, you'll only allow us then to go to high traffic places?

Useless thread, you wasted your time. This is useless idea.

Nice understanding. Really. 11/10 IGN

34 minutes ago, Anriandor said:

please do not waste your time pretending to be an in-game admin because we have qualified staff who is capable of doing it

Never found an admin at Duisburg,Just to say.

32 minutes ago, DJ Jefferz HMFL TFM FME said:

Nobody is pretending to be in-game admin. What he's suggesting is a valid idea. It's a vigilante group that's offering to give their time to report players breaking rules. 

Imagine if there was one of us standing in freecam @ Duisburg. After a few days (and bans) everyone would stop compenetrating in the no collision areas while trying to get out,causing that awful jam we all know.

41 minutes ago, Creatured said:

goto high traffic areas and park there and do nothing is not only useless but against the rules.

What's not clear of the "freecam" word?

43 minutes ago, DJ Jefferz HMFL TFM FME said:

I sort of already do this. I park nearby the Rotterdam interchange on the C-D Road and just use free cam and fly around taking clips of people. As there was no admin around.  in the space of around 30 mins I had numerous clips where people have now been banned from them. It's maybe worth considering an official vigilante group. 

Definitely what i wanted to do.

 

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22 minutes ago, Andrea Vaillant said:

What's not clear of the "freecam" word?

Yeah, before nearly insulting staff I'd advise you to check the rules- useless traffic on and around C-D road is not allowed, parking on or around C-D road during busy times is not allowed, impersonating or acting as law enforcement/admins is also not allowed

 

So you've broken 3 rules in an attempt to catch petty rule breaks like overtaking? I'd just advise you to enjoy the game as it is and take the staffs (and our) word that there are admins, they just can't come on 24/7.

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Totally agree most of the lag that comes from c+d road is from mobs of trucks parked up reporting everyone lol the lag theres more of a pain than the trolls, same when you seen a admin parked up its like a noobmagnet unleased lmao

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26 minutes ago, heyhococo said:

Yeah, before nearly insulting staff I'd advise you to check the rules- useless traffic on and around C-D road is not allowed, parking on or around C-D road during busy times is not allowed, impersonating or acting as law enforcement/admins is also not allowed

 

So you've broken 3 rules in an attempt to catch petty rule breaks like overtaking? I'd just advise you to enjoy the game as it is and take the staffs (and our) word that there are admins, they just can't come on 24/7.

Insulting staff? how?.... Nobody is impersonating. We're not typing messages saying your getting a ban.. So no impersonation. The rule doesn't specify parking on or around. Just driving to and from. I really don't get this negativity.

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2 hours ago, DJ Jefferz HMFL TFM FME said:

Wow theirs some rather sour responses to this.. TMP boasts 1.3 Million accounts. How many of them are duplicates or actual active account? The Idea is a vigilante group who offer support to TMP. I disagree with allowing to have permission to use cars to block traffic or having any extra privileges. But I like the idea of people being allowed to report players breaking the rules while admins are not around. 

 

I'm all for this, record and report, but that won't help since admins and mods are clearly overwhelmed by the amount of work, I do reports on website here and it takes almost 2 weeks before anyone deal with them, if you say you got enough admins and mods its a lie obviously, but you can't allow anyone to become admins or mods like this, so many would abuse their powers, hell right now some people pretend to be admins or convoy controls or escort services and block the roads and even ram you if you try to overtake them and they pretend they have the right to do it, don't give them the real right to do this...

 

One thing that will solve this is when the TruckersMP finally put the server side profile and economy online, since no cheats will be possible, trolls and rammers will soon be gone, if they have to play the game correctly to be able to troll, block or ram others, they will soon be gone, they need money to afford the repairs on their trucks, and they do it with CheatEngine or other tools since the profiles are in your PC, its easy to do it, but once its on server side, it won't be possible to cheat money that easy. Yup, some people like me won't love to start from scratch again, some will probably leave because of this new start from square one, but I'll start from scratch and I'll know that everyone that stays on the server aren't rammers and trolls, there will be some at first for a few days or weeks, but they will quickly quit.

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How about to give a privilege to players ( test 10-20) to ban and kick other players?

 

For example, I go into the game taking the cargo and drive to the specified place, on the way I see that the player is blocking the other player, i can not pay attention and go further or warn the player who is blocking if he does not leave i kick him or ban (max 10min only with Video evidence).

 

p.s sry for my eng.

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How about to give a privilege to players ( test 10-20) to ban and kick other players?

then it takes away the point of having admins at all. just record and report etc people who moan about being stuck by a troll blocking for 20mins should just log off drive round and log back in isn't hard to do but people will still sit there expecting an admin to magically appear!!

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3 hours ago, heyhococo said:

Yeah, before nearly insulting staff I'd advise you to check the rules- useless traffic on and around C-D road is not allowed, parking on or around C-D road during busy times is not allowed, impersonating or acting as law enforcement/admins is also not allowed

 

So you've broken 3 rules in an attempt to catch petty rule breaks like overtaking? I'd just advise you to enjoy the game as it is and take the staffs (and our) word that there are admins, they just can't come on 24/7.

Again,what's not clear about freecam word?

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well all i can say is god i love memes ... are you actually being serious with this or are you high and or drunk because this would never work even if it was allowed which as stated many times before is not ... Enjoy the ban which will most likely incur from trying to report people while sat near high traffic areas because "freecam" is limited to 500M

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