Update the rules about ghosting with the wintermod.

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Suggestion Name: Update the rules about ghosting with the wintermod.
Suggestion Description: If you have the wintermod installed, it is still night time at around 7:00am, but on the rules it says this:

 

"Driving without lights or Ghost driving

Driving in the dark without lights is forbidden. From 7PM (19:00) to 7AM (07:00), headlights must be on."

 

There should be something about the time if you are using the wintermod. It stays dark until around 9:00am.
Any example images: Nope.
Why should it be added?: It will stop more people from ghosting and it will also stop staff members from getting confused I guess...  

Edited December 21, 2016 by _Lee_

[Skeay]

Totally agree!

[Aestrial]

I definitely agree with you here. Maybe just some temp rules to be put in place while the Winter Mod is supported in-game, but I think that there should be some sort of rules reflecting ghost driving with the Winter Mod, so +1.

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People could also possibly abuse the wintermod, if they get banned all they can do is appeal showing what the current rule about ghosting is.

[[S.PLH]Warrior]

but what if the players doesn't use the winter mod, so it looks like he is ghost driving ? but he is not because it's daytime on his screen.

this would be a hard thing to decide to be honest.

[Forraz]

Hello

 

Some of the players might not use the Winter mod

Sure the rules says

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Driving without lights or Ghost driving

Driving in the dark without lights is forbidden. From 7PM (19:00) to 7AM (07:00), headlights must be on

And for the ones with the Mod on would have it darker for a longer period of time.

My game seems to get dark enough for headlights around 7PM (19:00) as per-usual and brightens up around 7-9 AM.

 

If this were to be implemented it would only be temporary through out the Winter Season but would then be discarded when the Winter Mod is disabled.

I'll stay natural on this as I have not compared the day/night cycle (Lighting on both ends) in-game yet.

[FirestarteR93]

(and because why not a 3rd post in a row by FM)

 

19 minutes ago, _Lee_ said:

There should be something about the time if you are using the wintermod. It stays dark until around 9:00am.

 

There's one little problem: how are those who don't use the winter mod goig to see whether is still too dark to turn their lights off?

 

IMO changing the rules for like 2-3 months will cause some chaos - I wonder if we can get something like "always-on mode" enabled together with the winter mod (you will see people's lights always on if you have the winter mod)?

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Just now, FirestarteR93 said:

(you will see people's lights always on if you have the winter mod)?

I like this idea  

[Trucking Gekco]

-1

You need to find out who is using the mod and who isn't. Better idea is to have everyone keep them on 24/7 -__-

[FirestarteR93]

^Yeah but that's already known - that's why I made my post above (in other words if you have enabled winter mod, then you see everyone's low beams on / if you don't have the winter mod enabled, you'll just see some players driving with their lights on during daytime)

[.StεvƐ.]

-1 if it's still dark for you, obviously your lights will be on so you'll see the truck coming towards you at a far enough distance to avoid, plus with the dots on the GPS you can't say you didn't know they were there because you'll see them on the map.

 

personally, it should be said that sidelights should be on past 7am for those without the winter mod, as most of us drive sidelights on during the day, it's the most natural and easy thing to do.

 

having your lights on when it's super light in game is just horrible, plus, putting a rule in isn't going to stop people from following the normal rule of lights off at 7am. I mean, even with the normal rules, you get people driving with no lights on at night, so adding a temp rule for winter isn't going to make a single bit of difference, those who are smart, will have lights on, those that don't, don't. 

 

@Trucking Gekco honestly, if a rule was brought in to force people to have their lights on 24/7 I would uninstall mp or get banned everyday because I don't believe in having lights on during the day unless it's bad weather, I'll only ever have sidelights on during the day, but never low beams, for one it hurts my eyes and saturates the road so I personally can't see the centre line at all, and it's not an actual rule in my own country, we are not required to have our lights on no matter the time or day. 

[Trucking Gekco]

^ Nononoo lol, didn't mean to say a rule should be implemented for it, that would be stupid. Would just be better if players would keep their lights on all the time, or at least the markers. I'm just used to having lights on 24/7 because in Canada, or at least in my province, cars are required to have daytime running lights so you see headlights everywhere you go xD

[JakeSlayZ31]

same here in my city @Trucking Gekco

[Interstate Nomad]

 

 

Though the rules do not explicity state that it is required to use headlights during the day, it says that it is forbidden to drive without lights in the dark.

 

Furthermore, it goes without saying that headlights shall always be used when it is required by light- and visibility conditions.

 

 

However, to extend the rules independant of temporary mods I suggest to add

Headlights are required to be on between 30 minutes before sunset and 30 minutes after sunrise.

 

 

[Chileno Trucker]

I was driving around rotterdam yesterday and in my screen was 6:15pm and was really dark, and see a lot of players ghost driving.

[GaryP]

Why Not have it like last year. Lights to be on from 6pm-8am its only an hour each way. It doesn't have to be a hard rule more of a gentlemen agreement. it seemed to work well.

[CJMAXiK]

In Russia, headlights should be on all the time. So I will suggest to extend Ghost Driving rule to all the time until Wintermod is gone.

[.StεvƐ.]

23 hours ago, Trucking Gekco said:

^ Nononoo lol, didn't mean to say a rule should be implemented for it, that would be stupid. Would just be better if players would keep their lights on all the time, or at least the markers. I'm just used to having lights on 24/7 because in Canada, or at least in my province, cars are required to have daytime running lights so you see headlights everywhere you go xD

Meanwhile, for my country, you don't even need sidelights on during the day, it's not a requirement at all, only in bad weather conditions or night time. 

 

Plus, if anyone is like me, having lights on low beams all day causes extreme frame issues in mp, hence why I only run with sidelights on and I only do that because of dashboard lights and so people with different weather settings can see me. 

 

11 hours ago, Joao Rodrigues said:

 

 

Though the rules do not explicity state that it is required to use headlights during the day, it says that it is forbidden to drive without lights in the dark.

 

Furthermore, it goes without saying that headlights shall always be used when it is required by light- and visibility conditions.

 

 

However, to extend the rules independant of temporary mods I suggest to add

Headlights are required to be on between 30 minutes before sunset and 30 minutes after sunrise.

 

 

First of all, the current rules are lights on at 7pm, lights off 7am, has been for the last 6 months or so, plus, to you it might be super bright at 6am, but to someone else it might be still fairly dark due to weather settings and general brightness.

 

secondly, stating that lights are required half an hour before sunrise and sunset will make no difference as for those without the winter mod, it gets dark around half 7-8pm and light around 6.30am, yet those with the mod have earlier sunsets and later sunrises so you'll get people "ghosting" because for them, it's light out. 

 

Ideally, there should be a temporary rule dictating that the minimum of sidelights-low beams should be kept on from when it gets dark in the winter mod, till it gets light, if you do not install the mod.. that then means there's the best of both worlds, those with the mod can still see those without and those without can always follow their normal routine.

 

[heyhococo]

It'd be easier to just say "Keep your parking lights on 24/7", that way anyone with any screen brightness or scenery can see players no matter how dark. But what's the likeliness of people following that?  (I do that myself )

[Interstate Nomad]

On ‎23‎.‎12‎.‎2016 at 1:33 AM, megadethsteve666 said:

First of all, the current rules are lights on at 7pm, lights off 7am, has been for the last 6 months or so, plus, to you it might be super bright at 6am, but to someone else it might be still fairly dark due to weather settings and general brightness.

 

Even If somebody's screen shows bright daylight at 6am (for example due to high gamma corrections) the rules to drive with headlights turned on until 7am would still apply.

 

On ‎23‎.‎12‎.‎2016 at 1:33 AM, megadethsteve666 said:

secondly, stating that lights are required half an hour before sunrise and sunset will make no difference as for those without the winter mod, it gets dark around half 7-8pm and light around 6.30am, yet those with the mod have earlier sunsets and later sunrises so you'll get people "ghosting" because for them, it's light out.

 

I did not say "lights are required half an hour before sunrise and sunset". It would not make sense to require lights until half an hour before sunrise.

I said "Headlights are required to be on between 30 minutes before sunset and 30 minutes after sunrise."

 

On ‎23‎.‎12‎.‎2016 at 1:33 AM, megadethsteve666 said:

Ideally, there should be a temporary rule dictating that the minimum of sidelights-low beams should be kept on from when it gets dark in the winter mod, till it gets light, if you do not install the mod.. that then means there's the best of both worlds, those with the mod can still see those without and those without can always follow their normal routine.

 

Another suggestion is to that everybody is required to turn on their headlights 24/7.

[Hey_Wtf]

I have my side lights on 24/7 Got fed up with winter mod

[_Pingu_]

unless winter mod is a like an update where everyone has to have it. E:G wintermod would be enabled for everyone (meaning it would be on every server ) for a period of time like from December to January then after that it would be disabled 

Edited January 6, 2017 by Mr_Pingu

[LordBenji]

I'm from Canada, I keep my lights on most of the time, no problem there.

I played the game with and without the mod, and with the wintermod, it already starts to get dark at 5 PM I believe. I also tried to report 3 guys (could have reported way more) and it was between 4 and 6 AM in-game time. But one of the admin said that the guys may not have wintermod. I don't understand his logic... But I should have been more clear about what time it was during the recording. Time was displayed on truck dash but route advisor was hidden.

[Synplex]

If the user(s) haven't got the mod activated then they're not ghosting or breaking any rules, even if they are driving in the dark for those with it activated. Without forcing the mod to be activated for all users (ruining the experience for those that don't want it), I can't see a rule being added/changed.

 

The administration team used to post announcements in-game regarding having your lights on due to the wintermod, whether or not this still happens I don't know as I don't play much. <-- Admins, feel free to chime in here regarding this

[Interstate Nomad]

1 hour ago, Katizuki said:

If the user(s) haven't got the mod activated then they're not ghosting or breaking any rules, even if they are driving in the dark for those with it activated. Without forcing the mod to be activated for all users (ruining the experience for those that don't want it), I can't see a rule being added/changed.

 

The administration team used to post announcements in-game regarding having your lights on due to the wintermod, whether or not this still happens I don't know as I don't play much. <-- Admins, feel free to chime in here regarding this

 

The winter mod simulates an earlier dusk and a later dawn.

To users that have activated the winter mod, users without activated winter mod will appear to drive without headlights turned on at (their) dark.

Because they do not know which user has activated the winter mod, it is possible that they will report them.

 

However, you are right:

regarding to driving without lights at dark, none of the above described user groups is actually violating a rule as long as the activation of the winter mod is not mandatory.