Convoy Rules?

[Nace888]

Suggestion Name: Create a Convoy Rules topic

 

Suggestion Description: Create a rules topic strictly for convoys

 

Any example images: N/A

 

Why should it be added?: I've messaged 3-4 people lately, in attempts to figure out what the 'Official Rules' for the convoys are. I know people will tell me to look in the rules, but as I've mentioned to a couple people, I don't see but 2 rules that touch very briefly on convoys.

What I suggest we do is create rules that strictly pertain to convoys, for instance, parking, overtaking, lights, traffic lights, etc etc etc. Most rules are pertaining to simply driving, but what about convoys with large numbers of people, or convoys being in towns, etc etc etc?

If there's any posted that I've overlooked, by all means. However, I think there should be a set topic about all the details of convoy operations. I know most convoy operations are done by the host, but I'd love to see some definite rules.

[Guest]

Agreed.  +1

[Ashley]

Hello,

 

I understand what you're getting at, but it would be hard to force with hundreds of convoys taking place per day. You'd also need to define the parameters of a convoy, would 2 people count as a convoy? 3, 4, 5? How many people.

 

You can create your own rules for a convoy, however, you need to obtain a minimum of 30 members prior to making your own rules.

You can find all the information for making your own temporary convoy rules here: 

 

[Nace888]

I understand this, but if we were to set our own rules, they can get dismissed simply because it's not posted on that topic...

I'd like some simple base rules for all convoys, mostly in relation to the traffic around them that's not in the convoy, as well as what should be done around lights etc.

It's been said that if the admin witnessed certain convoys, they'd be banned because rules are broken, but I don't see rules pertaining to this?

[Noraf]

the same rules applies to convoys as to regular traffic, unless it got a temporarly dispention, that allows them to breake sertain rules. These convoys ( witch really are convoys, those without isn't really a convoy...) is very ofthen followed by atleast 1 police car ( afther the car update)

[Nace888]

But see, that's just it. How many people will know to make temporary rules?

 

There's a convoy every weekend at the same time that varies on how many attend, so those temporary rules don't do much because one day it can be 14 drivers, the next day it can be 35.

 

Honestly, I've heard so many mixed results on what the rules are. One Admin says convoys can run red lights, another Admin says you can't. One Admin says convoys can park on the side of the road, but another Admin will say no to that same area. One Admin will say okay overtake this driver, another can say the convoy will get banned if they overtake.

 

The rules are very vague on a MP-wide scenario that gives us this issue. What we want are the simple base rules that would apply to EVERY convoy, regardless of size.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Nace888

[Nace888]

Thanks guys!!

 

Btw, someone agreed but the comment is gone..... Thanks to you too!

[_.Queen Rosalie._]

really, all convoys below x number should have to stick to a to fixed guidelines on how to operate and what is and isn't allowed. Ive had "convoys" yell at me because ive done something that's against THEIR rules, even though its not official, yet they've had way less than 30 drivers in their group.

 

If the convoy is above a threshold or is admin run, then they can be subject to their own rules, but if its a small company convoy, then they should have strict fixed guidelines, too many times have convoys done some weird stuff and shrugged it off as being their rules.

 

So I would support this on the basis that convoys below a certain number should have fixed strict rules on their behaviours and movements around the map.

[Nace888]

I say below 30 works, but at the same time, a base set would work for ALL convoys.

 

Thanks for agreeing!

[Hawksfan2102]

I agree with you, a 'base' set of rules needs to be set in order for convoys to function and run accordingly. Having just a few rules enforced by the people running the convoy, often and do get looked over by the participants.

 

Just simply a topic on this forum, outlining what rules exist when taking part in a convoy. People have different mind sets, some say this, some say that. We really need this to be set in concrete for us all

[Nace888]

Thanks. While I know it should be basically the regular rules of driving, it seems like people are very loosy goosey about convoys.

[Nace888]

It keeps showing me that someone comments but it's not here. Thank you if you have, and thanks to those who agree!!

[Mudkip_]

Convoy rules are common sense

 

There are no exception of rules with regards to Convoys unless its an official convoy, then some rules may be bypassed

 

Convoys can park at the side of the road aslong as none of them interfere with the running of the road,

 

Convoys can run red lights, IF ITS CLEAR

If there is trucks coming

stop 

[_.Queen Rosalie._]

^I think ive seen more convoys running reds when theres traffic around, parking with some stuck out in the road and guys not giving way or insisting on overtaking another member in front of traffic, than I have seen people obeying these rules!

[Nace888]

Which is why I'm asking for the simple base rules. Some things I've heard Admins say to do, while I've heard other Admins say not to do it.

[_.Queen Rosalie._]

Not to put a too fine a point on things, but not all convoy runners use common sense or any sense for that matter. yeah some do, but a lot just make up their own rules that they enforce on everyone who comes within range of the convoy. I had a convoy leader the other day screaming down his mic at me because I was doing 55MPH along a single carriageway/B road, he was saying under their rules I should either speed up to 70 or get out of their way. Ive seen convoys blow through junctions like they don't exist nearly smashing into traffic that had right of way due to a green light.

 

For every good convoy, theyre usually 2 shady ones. I support Convoys having black and white rules and guidelines to follow, no matter whether its a 5 strong convoy or a 50 strong convoy, same as people not a part of a convoy should have rules to stop stupid accidents when passing a convoy. The amount of times ive had to take to the grass because someone has decided to overtake a slow moving convoy is ridiculous. Really there should be a rule that if theres traffic behind a convo that is being held up, the lead truck should be their eyes and allow the traffic to pass when it is safe and call out to all members to let traffic pass instead fo holding up traffic and potentially inadvertently causing accidents.

[tfmpillow]

I think convoy control is at convoys to make it save and keep it save, when someone isn't listening people can report him and when admins are driving with the convoy, they could kick/ban them.

[Syntog]

So...what 'rules' would you like to see for convoys only? 

 

A convoy is a convoy no matter the size and just because there might be a convoy bigger than the rest doesn't mean they should get special rules. I agree with that a larger convoy should get an admin, if any admin would like to volunteer for such an event, but they should not get special rules

[Nace888]

When I say rules, I'm referring to traffic light rules, overtaking rules, sitting in certain areas, etc. I've heard so many different sides that it's unsure of what's true and what isn't.

[duramax_514]

Shouldn't they make rules about people making convoy of nothing but cars two 

[Nace888]

Well in this case it's more truck convoy geared...

[Guest]

Maybe that is a good idea, but many VTCs, which are organising convoys have their own convoy rules, so you know how to behave on their convoys. I think that convoy rules made by TruckersMP wouldn't be that useful.

[_.Queen Rosalie._]

^but look at it on the flip side, for those who are NOT part of the convoy, they do not know the rules the convoy is going by, hence why there are accidents and anger towards convoys who follow their own rules, fixed rules that all convoys (unless admin run/allowed) should follow is not only beneficial to the convoy themselves, but to others on the road. Ive had convoys swearing in chat because according to their rules, no one is to pass them, yet no one else knows that rule except those in the convoy. Not to mention, some convoys that ive seen, they've had rules where they blow through all stop signs and traffic lights, regardless of traffic conditions, now, that's fine for the convoy, but what about the innocent driver who has the green light and right of way who gets T boned by a convoy member following that unofficial rule of the road?

 

No, Official guidelines/rules/regulations on convoys are more for the safety of everyone, not just the convoy, if everyone knows the rules when it comes to convoys, stupid accidents can be avoided a lot, lot more.

[Nace888]

2 hours ago, megadethsteve666 said:

^but look at it on the flip side, for those who are NOT part of the convoy, they do not know the rules the convoy is going by, hence why there are accidents and anger towards convoys who follow their own rules, fixed rules that all convoys (unless admin run/allowed) should follow is not only beneficial to the convoy themselves, but to others on the road. Ive had convoys swearing in chat because according to their rules, no one is to pass them, yet no one else knows that rule except those in the convoy. Not to mention, some convoys that ive seen, they've had rules where they blow through all stop signs and traffic lights, regardless of traffic conditions, now, that's fine for the convoy, but what about the innocent driver who has the green light and right of way who gets T boned by a convoy member following that unofficial rule of the road?

 

No, Official guidelines/rules/regulations on convoys are more for the safety of everyone, not just the convoy, if everyone knows the rules when it comes to convoys, stupid accidents can be avoided a lot, lot more.

Thank you, I feel like you really made a point of what I've been trying to say.

 

What you've pointed out is pretty much what I've been trying to say all along!

[_.Queen Rosalie._]

^its perfectly true though, I mean today, driving down towards Duisberg via the single carriageway, I had a convoy shoot out of the highway exit right in front of me, when one guy pulled out as I approached I thought, eh good on him, but when 2 of his buddies did the same thing and then a third pulled out as I passed the junction and hit me.. when I looked, they were all part of the same company on a convoy. Now surely, I had right of way over them as they were exiting the highway whereas I was on the road they were joining..

 

the be all end all is, if convoys are allowed to make up their own unofficial rules and role with it where they go without the general public knowing the rules, then theres going to be more wrecks, more reports ad more frustration and anger than if theres an official set of rules as standard for all convoys to follow at all times while convoying, it makes life for them a whole lot better and it makes us, the general public, feel better knowing where we all stand when it comes to being around a convoy, to me its a no brainer.