S2020 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Scania R500 V8 Euro 5 No V8... "Trucking is like love... Only newbies go fast and end up early " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhavefunx Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 ^ Why not? It's under 510 HP. It's also J-Spec as it's a very common sight here. R520+ is no J-Spec, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurgui Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I live in France, near a big city, and I drive quite often : I hardly see any truck above 500hp. My World of Trucks profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Lets start this conversation again. This time no arguing or belittling each other. Have a friendly conversation without the arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killemac Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Actros 1842. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardvgs Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Actros 1842. Nice color, I like the look of the fuel tanks without the sideskirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ST] Hellser Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Do ya'll drive your J-Spec in MP? If so, how do you deal with the impatient drivers trying to overtake you on ramps? (Since 300-500 range HP tends to slow down a lot going onto merge ramps / climbing hills)Also, since I'm an American.. what is the average HP range for the european trucks / standard chassis? The Internet keeps showing either the 4x2 or 6x2/4 chassis (with mid-lift/partial steering), and hardly any "dualies". I'm quite interested in converting my SP/MP work truck into a J-Spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adde_ Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 ^ I've never had any bigger problems than normal with impatient drivers because my engine is too weak The chassis/engines vary a lot from country to country but in Sweden there is mostly 450-500 HP Scania's and Volvo's with 6x4 or 6x2/4 chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffSFC Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Pun might be intended. Intel i7 7700k│ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero│G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 16GB 3000MHz │EVGA GTX 1080 FTW│EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2│Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVMe M.2/Samsung 850 EVO 500GB│Corsair H100i v2│Corsair iCUE 465x RGB Audio Technica AD700's│Beyerdymanic DT770's 80Ω│Corsair Strafe RGB Blues│Logitech G502 Spectrum│Alienware AW3420DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konfig0 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Do ya'll drive your J-Spec in MP? If so, how do you deal with the impatient drivers trying to overtake you on ramps? (Since 300-500 range HP tends to slow down a lot going onto merge ramps / climbing hills) Also, since I'm an American.. what is the average HP range for the european trucks / standard chassis? The Internet keeps showing either the 4x2 or 6x2/4 chassis (with mid-lift/partial steering), and hardly any "dualies". I'm quite interested in converting my SP/MP work truck into a J-Spec. Hi,Here in the Netherlands trucks are usually 450-600 HP, although the landscape is almost flat here.. you've got alot of 4x2 trucks here (without sideskirts) or with (Steering) midlift. I wonder if you look both ways when you cross my mind.. Be slow to critize, be fast to appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2020 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Do ya'll drive your J-Spec in MP? If so, how do you deal with the impatient drivers trying to overtake you on ramps? (Since 300-500 range HP tends to slow down a lot going onto merge ramps / climbing hills) Also, since I'm an American.. what is the average HP range for the european trucks / standard chassis? The Internet keeps showing either the 4x2 or 6x2/4 chassis (with mid-lift/partial steering), and hardly any "dualies". I'm quite interested in converting my SP/MP work truck into a J-Spec. I drive always J-spec. How do I deal with others, simple. Like in real, I ignore them. I suggest you do the same, they are **** id****. They can take over whenever they can. They often come face to face with another and that's their problem Luckily, real drivers while young ones tend to go fast, are more careful and patient than the game. Because responsibility of safety around you and your haul is much more heavier than self-satisfaction. If companies haul long distances routes (mostly cross continental or international hauls) , you have to deal with many countries laws, so they tend to stick with cargo weight matching all countries, that's usually maximum 25t load, around 3t of trailer itself, about 7 tonnes of truck itself, they try not to go over 40 tonnes which is legal limit. That's why most companies tend to buy what makes their job work as cheap as possible. Basically 4xx's are often best suited for almost any international haul, they can go with enough speed so, so they are majorities. Also low HP = better fuel consumption, cheaper maintenance and repairs. International / Cross continental European companies tend to go with 4x2, drivers also like 4x2 better because ease of manueverability which is nice for narrow European roads. But intercity / inside countries, you can see variety depending on laws of country. To give example from my past companies for last decade, I drove Magnum DX480, Actros 1844 , Axor 1840 and latest DAF XF 105.460 , all in 400-500 range and all 4x2's... "Trucking is like love... Only newbies go fast and end up early " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Midi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 My MP 'Convoy/Pigpen's' inspired truck. 480 hp. Is this considered to be a J spec truck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandre Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 ^^I´d say no. - 3 bars. - Silly sun visor. + Good engine power + Nice paint. + Nice choice of wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Midi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 ^^ I´d say no. - 3 bars. - Silly sun visor. + Good engine power + Nice paint. + Nice choice of wheels. Ok, then it just will be my Convoy 'lovemachine' lookalike. Which i find cool, cause i kinda like the old trucks. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ST] Hellser Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'd say they're J-Spec for ATS though, depending on what era the truck is. Convoy and the trucks in Convoy were sort of suppose to be driver-owned. (Hence their customization). J-Spec's suppose to be Company owned. But hey. Keep it around for a show truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandre Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ok, then it just will be my Convoy 'lovemachine' lookalike. Which i find cool, cause i kinda like the old trucks. Thanks for the reply. It´s a nice truck. It´s quite smillar to the truck in "convoy", but it´s not J-Spec. Allthough, it would´ve been J-Spec in ATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ST] Hellser Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I've meant to add on to what I was saying; I believe there's more driver owned trucks in the US than there are in the EU. US trucks tend to have more luxurious additions. (There's a documentary/History Channel thing about American Truckers and their love for their trucks. Which to them, is a second home)Also. How is my J-Spec-fu? Iveco Hi-way, 460 e6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romero Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Also. How is my J-Spec-fu? Iveco Hi-way, 460 e6. Poor thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ST] Hellser Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Poor thing How so? Been hauling 22t cargo quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Giving your opinion is allowed, even if it's negative but please add some constructive critism so the person who posted it knows how to make it better Scar | Retired Legend You can design and create, and build the most wonderful place in the world. But it takes people to make the dream a reality. Banned: HELP! - Report a player - Help - Rules - Staff recruitment - Complaints/feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romero Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 How so? Been hauling 22t cargo quite easily. because its iveco)) I tested iveco and other trucks with same engine power, they were much more powerful. But for j-spec its ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ST] Hellser Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I like Ivecos, personally. It was a toss up between Renault, DAF, Iveco or Mercedes. I went with Iveco, since it's been my main truck for a long while. Each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhavefunx Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I drive always J-spec. How do I deal with others, simple. Like in real, I ignore them. I suggest you do the same, they are dumb idiots. They can take over whenever they can. They often come face to face with another and that's their problem Luckily, real drivers while young ones tend to go fast, are more careful and patient than the game. Because responsibility of safety around you and your haul is much more heavier than self-satisfaction. If companies haul long distances routes (mostly cross continental or international hauls) , you have to deal with many countries laws, so they tend to stick with cargo weight matching all countries, that's usually maximum 25t load, around 3t of trailer itself, about 7 tonnes of truck itself, they try not to go over 40 tonnes which is legal limit. That's why most companies tend to buy what makes their job work as cheap as possible. Basically 4xx's are often best suited for almost any international haul, they can go with enough speed so, so they are majorities. Also low HP = better fuel consumption, cheaper maintenance and repairs. International / Cross continental European companies tend to go with 4x2, drivers also like 4x2 better because ease of manueverability which is nice for narrow European roads. But intercity / inside countries, you can see variety depending on laws of country. To give example from my past companies for last decade, I drove Magnum DX480, Actros 1844 , Axor 1840 and latest DAF XF 105.460 , all in 400-500 range and all 4x2's... Sir, after thoughtfully reviewing your information i must regret to inform you that your information must be deemed as false. Please show me which trailer is 3t, i'd love to have that one. A cooling trailer can weigh up to 10t. The limit of 40t doesn't apply to all countries in Europe. Some have exemptions to even 70t. 4x2 isn't even allowed to pull 40t. Max rear axle load is 12t, and a 3 axle trailer may carry 9t per axle (9000*3=27.000+12.000=39.000). Anything over it will require a 6x2/4. The extra axle is allowed to carry 10t, so 49t would be the max load with a 6x2/4. Hence why there's so many 6x4 in Scandinavia. Low HP doesn't mean better fuel consumption when heavily loaded. It'll consume even more since it requires a lot more throttle than a high powered truck which needs less throttle so less fuel to pull a heavy load. And too my personal experience i enjoy 6x2/4 more than 4x2 to drive. That's why i see so many high powered trucks in the fruit and vegetable business. The Scania R500 would be the ideal solution for heavy loads and most efficiency. It's the cheapest V8 available, has much better benchmark statistics than the the V6, and doesn't require any additional maintanance just because it has 2 more cylinders. The reason most trucks across the rest of Europe has an engine between 360 and 500 range is because the new emission rules in Europe has made transport by truck so difficult and expensive, that self-employed drivers and companies have no other choice than to buy a new Euro 5/6 for as cheap as possible. Technology is moving fast and companies are required to keep up with it. The second hand truck websites are full of Euro 3 and 4 trucks. These engines weren't even produced so long ago. It's only a matter of time for the new Euro 7 to come out. And all Euro 5 trucks will be put for sale again, but no one will buy them because of European emission laws. Most companies export their trucks to low wealth countries, that doesn't have such emission laws. This is one of the main reasons self-employed drivers and companies don't want to invest in high powered trucks. You'll be able to drive it for approx 10 years and then you can throw it away. My old truck is in Iraq now: And it will service them for many many years to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirestarteR93 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 @ usta and xhavefunx: You still argue about horsepower and speed and emissions and w/e else there was, yet you blindly ignore that the only thing that matters is to keep it rolling - what's the point of having all shiny and painted 1000hp truck when it doesn't earn a dime? Anyway, a player makes a post which includes quite provocative content/attitude and then he complains that other people respond with the same attitude and once again you both are involved in it - Even if I don't care about your opinions (especially about speedlimiters and your game-to-reality comparisons), It seems to me that you are both experienced and grown up, so Please, at least behave properly and respect each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhavefunx Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 ^ What are you on about? I don't seem to get your point. Edit;Oh i see. Corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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