[Rules] Adding rule for not parking near the road at a curve in a high-popular area

[30maes]

Hello,

 

I'm here to make a suggestion on TruckersMP In-game rules.

 

Suggestion Description: I've driven on Calais-Duisburg a lot, so I often met incidents or accidents on that road. But I just noticed a problem: Some players parked near the road curve, which makes me impossible to check the situation in front, thus marking a worse problem because of fewer braking distance.

 

Currently, I've found the following rule:
 

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§2.3 - Blocking*

Restricting a user's travel path, blocking entry points or anything similar, misusing the Non-Collision Zone feature. Failure to use the "Tow to Service" feature (F7 ⭢ Enter ⭢ Option 1) when appropriate.

 

But it doesn't explain well on this kind of situation.

 

So, I want this rule to be updated in order to include the above situation I've mentioned. It could be that a TPR or TPRK if stopping there for a moment and block players' view at the curve.

 

If the current rule has already included this situation, I hope the rule can be updated to give a more detailed explanation or just mention that situation is still kickable or bannable.

 

Why it should be added: I've actually already described the reason above. So here is an example of the following user stopping on a curve, caused fewer braking distance to me and nearly caused a collision. It's lucky that I was only driving like 60kph at that time. But if for another player who keeps driving in a high speed. I cannot imagine what would happen there.

 

Video: 

 

 

I hope that this can be reviewed and be replied.

 

Best Regards,

30maes

['Kyann.]

Hello, @30maes 

 

From your video, I understand that the person stops in the middle of the road, but they are not breaking any rules. They may have stopped due to a mechanical issue...

I hope I have answered your questions.

 

Best regards,

Kyann

 

 

[Mystere]

Hello!

I believe that the original TruckersMP rules work for this type of situation. If our GMMs had to explain each situation individually, the rule 2.5 would be too extensive, that's why the rule 2.5 is short but covers a wide range of possible situations. As long as the player stops on the grass it's not a violation of our rules, the player may have had a problem or just stopped there for a few moments, we don't know why the player stops on the grass, but it doesn't bother other people or puts other people in danger. The players who stop on the curve as you show in the video are not breaking any rules, and neither do they interfere with the visibility on the road, remember that the players have a GPS in the truck and can also activate it manually, something I recommend doing if someone is driving in a congested area like the C-D Road.

 

If you drive on the C-D Road all the time, you should know that it's a congested route most of the day, so you will find players stopped on the grass on several occasions. Your job, as you have decided to drive on that specific route, is to keep the distance between your truck and other players, as well as to set up your game to be able to stop in time in case of a possible problem on the road. If you take proper cautions on the most congested road in TruckersMP, I don't believe that modifying the rules or explaining each situation individually is really necessary.

 

Kind regards,
Mystere
TruckersMP Game Moderation Trainer

[Interstate Nomad]

The TruckersMP rules require every player to respect national road traffic regulations, and the road between Duisburg and Calais is covered by road traffic regulations of multiple countries.

In Germany, for example, it is prohibited to stop in a steep curve.

It also defines stopping for longer than 3 minutes as parking. Your suggestion therefore might already be covered by the TruckersMP rules.

 

It is in general a good idea, not to stop in any place that is dangerous for you or and/ or blocks the view of other drivers.

[User_5473085]

You can use the GPS to know if there is a vehicle stopped at the front, as long ur reaction time is good and you brake you will not crash in this kind of situation, it's not neccesary to expand 2.5 rule and make it complex.

Sometimes players are obliged to stop in certain areas due to any real life situation or simply a vehicle malfunction.

The vehicle in front as a tip can use blinkers so the driver behind can react better.

 

Conclusion: In your video, it is clear that in the GPS there is a lot of traffic, why didn't u see that? distraction? U could have braked from much more earlier as you know there is a small jam ahead.

Another tip, switch to exterior camera for a second and watch the situation.

Edit: Also noticed somth on the video, it took you plenty of time to start braking when you saw the stopped vehicle, maybe almost 1.5 seconds? Which is also a reason to not entirely to blame it on the parked people.

[[VIVA] Dejonckheere123]

While it can be very annoying that people are parked on the grass or side of the road, it is not forbidden. It's not really that dangerous as it would be in real life, you can see oncoming or stopped vehicles on your GPS. ,As I see in your video though, you have your gps on the right side turned off. I do not recommend driving the C-D road like that, it's a lot better when having it turned on so you have a better view of the map and the blue player-dots.

[el_blubb]

If you can't see the road ahead, just slow down. You were accelerating as you approached the turn while having little to no visibility. Now that's reckless driving.

[Martin_v8]

To be fair, I have noticed more people parking in completely ridiculous places which tend to be on corners and they are parked up facing oncoming traffic. This means you have to be extra careful when taking that bend because you don’t want to hit any oncoming vehicles but you also have to pay attention to the vehicle vehicles parked up (take coming into Calais as a prime example). 
 

The problem is because they are not directly blocking traffic nothing gets done and I think they can get away with it even though it is not a suitable place to be pulling up. 
 

TMP needs to stop people parking on a curve/bend. 

[Twojpapier]

What if you made traffic violations permanent on ,with very expensive fines and penaty points for every player

You exceed the points limit and 5 days of penalty without TMP like a light ban

[el_blubb]

Oh yeah. Absolutely amazing idea. Let's ban everybody. No more complaints. Problems solved.

[30maes]

From my point of view, I completely don't understand why people would stop at a curve but instead of a straight road. I think it is also easier to get into traffic on a straight road than at a curve. The only thing I can think about is just someone who wanted to record other's reckless driving and report them. Because the accidents happen most at a curve. It might be a bit funny, but this is what I can think of or suspect.

 

I've never said we need to ban someone who stopped at a curve. But rather kick at some point if it is needed judged by a Game Moderator. I'm just here to suggest for this, but who decides to take action is still the Game Moderators.

 

And for above, I've seen many people suggested me to check F5 maps. I would check the map some time when driving on C-D road. But it doesn't mean that it is good to stop at a curve. Some people may not notice the accident above from F5 map because their view is blocked by a truck with trailer stopped next to them.

 

Anyway, stopping at a curve would increase the risk of the accidents from my point of view.

[DevCallum]

49 minutes ago, 30maes said:

From my point of view, I completely don't understand why people would stop at a curve but instead of a straight road. I think it is also easier to get into traffic on a straight road than at a curve. The only thing I can think about is just someone who wanted to record other's reckless driving and report them. Because the accidents happen most at a curve. It might be a bit funny, but this is what I can think of or suspect.

 

I've never said we need to ban someone who stopped at a curve. But rather kick at some point if it is needed judged by a Game Moderator. I'm just here to suggest for this, but who decides to take action is still the Game Moderators.

 

And for above, I've seen many people suggested me to check F5 maps. I would check the map some time when driving on C-D road. But it doesn't mean that it is good to stop at a curve. Some people may not notice the accident above from F5 map because their view is blocked by a truck with trailer stopped next to them.

 

Anyway, stopping at a curve would increase the risk of the accidents from my point of view.

 

Have to agree

[el_blubb]

You can see on your map, there's queuing, yet you accelerate into a turn you can't see completely. Then you barely avoid colliding with another user. The result is not you asking yourself what you could do differently (which already has been suggested here: drive slower), but you go and point fingers.

And to put the icing on the cake, you now want to change the game, so you don't have to change your misbehavior.

 

This is honestly pretty entertaining, please go ahead....

 

[30maes]

That's an example of how the player blocked other player's view. Don't you drive quickly at C-D road, or you are the one who drives 60kph on C-D road and let others crazy?

 

I don't see any point to not accelerate into a turn which I think I can successfully pass that curve on that speed.

[30maes]

Edited the first post, since I think Blocking may be more suitable than Reckless Driving in this situation. As I noticed that there is "Blocking | Bad Parking Spot" reason in Admin's panel.