SimchoL Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) This mod should be payable, not free. There are tooooo many toxic players, who don't care about bans, because it's free. If he get perma - they buy ETS2 from new steam for 5 euro and continue to drive inappropriately. It's ok for you if its paid, its ok for us - normal players, it's not ok only for trolls.. think about this. 10 euro is ok, 4-5k ppl, 10 euro from a person is not great but is at least something for all that work that you put in something free anyway... Edited September 20, 2023 by Leon Baker Removed Inappropriate Language 5
Martin_v8 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 An interesting idea to Make TMP paid! Maybe a monthly fee would be more better? Of course, you would still likely get trolls, but I strongly believe they would be decreased dramatically, which intern would improve the report time, and just make everything more enjoyable! Will i think this ides will be accepted? No, TMP just seem to want to get as many players on their servers as possible, no matter if they can drive or not 1
S I C A R I O Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 I think making it paid should not be the solution, because there are many players who really play this game according to the rules and many more players are coming. Everyone's financial purchasing power is not the same, Ets2 and DLCs are expensive enough, I think it doesn't make sense for TruckersMP to be paid. 1 2
FernandoCR [ESP] Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 If TMP decided to charge a fee to their users for playing with the mod, they'd surely be facing legal actions from SCS, which owns the games and their copyrights. Not the best idea... 3 1
Granite [SVK] Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, FernandoCR [ESP] said: If TMP decided to charge a fee to their users for playing with the mod, they'd surely be facing legal actions from SCS, which owns the games and their copyrights. Not the best idea... I don't think so, there are lots of pay mods for ETS2/ATS around and they don't take legal actions, only ban them from their platforms ... then there are certain scum developers/publishers that take legal actions against free modifications, because they make them look like amateurs and jeopardize their profits, go figure. 1
FoxxDash Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 A better decision would be to make a separate server where you have to pay for access, for example, $6 per month. Patron Master Trucker (or its better equivalent - if they add it) has free access. 2
FernandoCR [ESP] Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Granite said: I don't think so, there are lots of pay mods for ETS2/ATS around and they don't take legal actions, only ban them from their platforms ... then there are certain scum developers/publishers that take legal actions against free modifications, because they make them look like amateurs and jeopardize their profits, go figure. The difference is that those mods charge for an specific item that is added to the game, TruckersMP would be charging their users for playing ETS2/ATS differently. I have no idea about how these things work, but I've read lots of times from TMP staff that the only way they can "make money" is through donations (Patreon, currently) and that they can never become a paid service because of legal reasons. 1
jess.thetrain Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 This would most likely kill the player base. Most players on TMP are F2P and don't have things like TMP's Patreon, so people would be pretty upset if you had to pay for access. It also might cause some drama with Patreon users who already pay for TMP, and wouldn't want to pay again. Plus, if the hackers and trolls have spare money for a new copy of ETS2, they also probably have extra money for TMP. In my opinion, it wouldn't be worth it. jess.thetrain appeal a ban | appeal an appeal | make someone else appeal | game not working? click here | want the manager? click here
Granite [SVK] Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, FernandoCR [ESP] said: The difference is that those mods charge for an specific item that is added to the game, TruckersMP would be charging their users for playing ETS2/ATS differently. I have no idea about how these things work, but I've read lots of times from TMP staff that the only way they can "make money" is through donations (Patreon, currently) and that they can never become a paid service because of legal reasons. In a way, TMP also adds content or functionality that isnt's or wasn't part of the game, depends on how you look at it. Still, it's all only talks and theories about potentional legal issues that will probably never be fully proven or refuted. TMP could also expand the patron membership, leaving free service very basic and limited, maybe even limited session time, without locking any of the standard content behind paywall. However, It wouldn't make sense doing this now when TMP is nowhere near their prime, it would backfire badly. 2
Sunstrider Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 The game's only $20 on the store. Plus, a couple of bucks for any cosmetics they want. While everyone's money situation is different, it must be at least stable to bypass any bans to keep playing. They sadly can't be EA and charge fees other then to be supportive. SCS will want that revenue. Maybe TMP can add Patron Exclusive Areas (PEA). You paid for it, why not have it be supportive of the map? Free accounts can be restricted from CD Road.
Martin_v8 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 I personally do want to see a Patron only server. TMP has many donators, making like 8k a month, so there would be plenty of people who can use the server, and deffo have more players than current sim 2! It could be a truck only server with national speed limits, no /fix, as realistic as possible. I’d like to see this to get away from the chaos of Sim 1, and not interested in sim 2 with the current speed limit. I would even pay a little more than current Master Trucker to get access to this server.. could come with a nice Patron donator skin too you can use
jess.thetrain Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, MartinV90 said: I personally do want to see a Patron only server. TMP has many donators, making like 8k a month, so there would be plenty of people who can use the server, and deffo have more players than current sim 2! It could be a truck only server with national speed limits, no /fix, as realistic as possible. I’d like to see this to get away from the chaos of Sim 1, and not interested in sim 2 with the current speed limit. I would even pay a little more than current Master Trucker to get access to this server.. could come with a nice Patron donator skin too you can use I don't see the point in having a server that forces these speed limits on you when you can drive the speed limit at your own free will anyway. If you don't like the chaos, drive somewhere quiet on Simulation 2 Normally the busiest areas are France and Germany so somewhere outside that hotspot can be quite quiet. This is just my opinion, but yeah there is nothing stopping you from driving realistically and in the speed limit if you want to. 1 1 jess.thetrain appeal a ban | appeal an appeal | make someone else appeal | game not working? click here | want the manager? click here
Martin_v8 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Posted August 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, Stones8000 said: I don't see the point in having a server that forces these speed limits on you when you can drive the speed limit at your own free will anyway. If you don't like the chaos, drive somewhere quiet on Simulation 2 Normally the busiest areas are France and Germany so somewhere outside that hotspot can be quite quiet. This is just my opinion, but yeah there is nothing stopping you from driving realistically and in the speed limit if you want to. But its hard to drive realistically when you have people overtaking you doing 150, and people complaining in chat you are driving too slow. Why should anyone drive above the speed limit for that road? if a road limit is 44mph, why should everyone be allowed to travel at 68mph? Thats classed as speeding & Reckless driving. Yet if you can only travel the speed limit, reckless driving will decrease, less reports, more realistic for everyone. If people want to speed, go on Arcade!
Interstate Nomad Posted September 15, 2023 Report Posted September 15, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 6:03 AM, SimchoL said: This mod should be payable, not free. There are tooooo many toxic players, who don't care about bans, because it's free. If he get perma - they buy ETS2 from new steam for 5 euro and continue to drive like an a$$hole. It's ok for you if its paid, its ok for us - normal players, it's not ok only for trolls.. think about this. 10 euro is ok, 4-5k ppl, 10 euro from a person is not great but is at least something for all that work that you put in something free anyway... How fortune that all trolls are poor...
[VIVA] [BG] Vinnie P.B. Posted September 15, 2023 Report Posted September 15, 2023 On 8/30/2023 at 8:03 AM, SimchoL said: they buy ETS2 from new steam for 5 euro and continue to drive like an a$$hole.... 10 euro is ok, 4-5k ppl, 10 euro from a person is not great but is at least something for all that work that you put in something free anyway... As all toxic "players" pay 5-10 euros each for the 2 games, they will pay the same amount for TMP as well. And they will troll everyone and everything again... Maybe SCS and TMP should agree on something serious like a future paid project with a serious monthly/annual fee? Support, Help, Run and Shout with NATURE and ANIMALS KINGDOM!
stari123 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 Some people don't have any money left at the end of the month, some people struggle to pay for food. And you want to stop them playing a Mod, that was always "free to play"? What about the payment options? - Not everyone got a credit or debit card for example. Some people are not even 18 years old - they are legally not allowed to use something like PayPal usually. There is the option to give something back to TruckersMP -> Patreon 3
CrazyCTRL Posted September 29, 2023 Report Posted September 29, 2023 Obsiouslly you don't know what would happen if truckersmp was paid.(there would be a lawsuit).Honestlly too easy of an reply.
(Furry)NoahTheGamer Posted July 17, 2024 Report Posted July 17, 2024 what a fanstastic idea i pay for truckersmp and it does annoy me when i get rammed of the road on a server i am paying towards
Niuro Posted July 20, 2024 Report Posted July 20, 2024 On 8/30/2023 at 8:03 AM, SimchoL said: This mod should be payable, not free. There are tooooo many toxic players, who don't care about bans, because it's free. If he get perma - they buy ETS2 from new steam for 5 euro and continue to drive inappropriately. It's ok for you if its paid, its ok for us - normal players, it's not ok only for trolls.. think about this. 10 euro is ok, 4-5k ppl, 10 euro from a person is not great but is at least something for all that work that you put in something free anyway... I get where you are coming from, but there is an optimal option to remove the trolls from the mod on mass in two steps: a/ on Sim 1 the amount of allowed players is lowered from 4300 to 1500. The report system is OFF. Let the cook... b/ require for Sim 2 all map DLCs except the last released one at the time, at present the West Balkans and in winter would be Greece probably. This will have the same effect as on the ProMods server ->if having the "long one" = spending a lot of cash for a new account. Most players don't like the outcome and behave accordingly. Total allowed amount of players is 2700 to 3000 on the server and is equal to ProMods.
Sunstrider Posted July 21, 2024 Report Posted July 21, 2024 On 7/20/2024 at 6:11 AM, Niuro said: I get where you are coming from, but there is an optimal option to remove the trolls from the mod on mass in two steps: a/ on Sim 1 the amount of allowed players is lowered from 4300 to 1500. The report system is OFF. Let the cook... b/ require for Sim 2 all map DLCs except the last released one at the time, at present the West Balkans and in winter would be Greece probably. This will have the same effect as on the ProMods server ->if having the "long one" = spending a lot of cash for a new account. Most players don't like the outcome and behave accordingly. Total allowed amount of players is 2700 to 3000 on the server and is equal to ProMods. Lowering the server cap won't solve anything. Maybe the amount of active bans a player has can limit the choice of servers you can pick from.
jess.thetrain Posted July 24, 2024 Report Posted July 24, 2024 On 8/30/2023 at 9:04 PM, Martin_v8 said: But its hard to drive realistically when you have people overtaking you doing 150, and people complaining in chat you are driving too slow. Like I said, that is easily fixed by driving on a quieter server in a quieter area. 1 1 jess.thetrain appeal a ban | appeal an appeal | make someone else appeal | game not working? click here | want the manager? click here
GildedSplinter Posted July 24, 2024 Report Posted July 24, 2024 Don't know man, I think that by putting TMP behind a paywall, you would alienate a large player base. Sure, many of the toxic players wouldn't play, but also you would get rid of a portion of those that are friendly and non-toxic.
Butter Bear Posted July 25, 2024 Report Posted July 25, 2024 If TMP starts charging mode, I think it will lose a large part of players! Perhaps everyone's economic conditions are different! At least that's what I think!
Κένια Posted July 26, 2024 Report Posted July 26, 2024 TMP paie et une mauvaise idée déjà que nous payons tous les DLC plus le jeu s’il y a TMP Pay alors le jeu deviendra plus ennuyeux
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