Dave

Sub forum or not, it's essentially the same thing - I'm for it either way. But yeah, I wouldn't worry about it sitting there unused. Obviously with the gradual fade of new games it will drop in activity but that's the same with every section on this forum they go up and down with activity and inactivity.

Sometimes other users do bring up other games from time to time, that said there's the possibility others don't do this as there is no where for it to be brought up; even though there is an off topic section. It wouldn't be that much of a waste of time and as for the resources, well.. the community would be powering that section - literally. Anyone that's on this forum is the community, whether they post complaints, negativity, general talk, suggestions, whatever. I believe by having such a section added to the forum this would encourage more users to socialize with each other and it might even entice those users who have been sitting in the shadows to come out and join the fun.

Buy new servers and talk to the developers then. Otherwise there will always be bad ping for certain people depending on where they are in the world.

Hm. I don't see why not. It might help clean up the off topic thread in the process and encourage a bit more socializing amongst us.

The real problem is the users that do ridiculous speeds that are unsuitable for certain roads with complete disregard for anyone but themselves and due to the speeds they do it's almost always guaranteed that they will crash into someone or edge into the other side of the road/another lane because they can't remain in control. The problem isn't the limiter.

I'd probably cry over the beauty of it.

Are you taking the piss Mario, mate? That's one thing that does my head in about you in particular, all you seem to care about is a f-----g format (that in all honesty doesn't matter), not what's actually being said. Why couldn't you have added something that was actually constructive to this thread apart from pissing about and disregarding everything that's been brought up in here because it's missing a few extra words in the first post. Is it that hard to read for you? It seems Delboy and Firestarter don't share the same view as you in regards to the format as they've posted and actually added something to the discussion apart from you who's threatening, once again, to disrupt an active discussion amongst the users and MP team.

Haha, that's fair enough man; don't worry about it. We're on the same page now.

I'm against the limiter being enabled again, so I don't want it. Is my standpoint clearer now?

I don't understand what you're getting at. I'm talking against protesting in general as a whole on games, they achieve nothing because no one actually sticks at them long enough for them to actually have any real effect. If the people who want to protest wanted to really make it count by refusing to connect to the MP client for two months and convincing others why they should do the same that would actually get a result that they want. I'm not using a keyboard for ETS2, I use a steering wheel but I do understand what you're saying. It's true that it's a game but with the right mods you can make the game into a true simulator (if you want to). I have an AI mod, for example, which makes the AI drive more human and are just as predictable as drivers on the road in real life rather than how they move like machine with the default base game. I'm actually against the limiter being put back on, I'm not sure if you think I'm happy about this or not because by forcing the limiter back on for everyone that's actually not allowing others to drive how they want.

I'll create a paypal account so you can send me your 50 bucks, people will gravitate to the server that has the most people on it. It won't matter on their preferences with the limiter. Protests do nothing in games because no one has the backbone to push hard enough, you're going to be wasting your time.

The hell is a protest going to do? Just go back to SP, there's your protest.

Honestly, even with the added aspect of real humans controlling the trucks that you see in MP it's still empty. The roads are empty for pretty much the majority of the time apart from around EP and Calais. I'm not going to say 'Well, add AI then' because I know there would by sync issues, but that does contribute to the empty roads. As for SP it's always there, I could give you a handful of mods that would make it seem like a completely different and full game, but that's up to you.

SP is always there to comfort you when you want to have an enjoyable experience man. It's been there for me for the past several weeks, it probably will continue to be there because I simply don't have anything to entice me to fire up the MP client as I've been everywhere and done it all. But, once again the community grabs me by the arm and I'm back to posting on the forums despite hardly ever being on MP.. well, minus the few minutes I was on when the limiter was removed. To anyone who may possibly tell me: Well no one's stopping you going to SP, you're correct. I'm not going to complain about it, but the community is what keeps me on this forum despite not really connecting to the MP client.

I'm calling it - watch out for round 2, or a drop in users either one will probably happen.